Angel Season Finale: what'd y'all think?

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CHANNAIN

Thursday, May 8, 2003 3:45 PM

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Originally posted by Cyridel:
And I'm definitely looking forward to whatever they have in store for Mr. Gunn. I'm gonna lean towards the idea that he's not entirely human anymore.

You know, I didn't even think of that. But with that sort of ominous exit from the elevator...he did have a distinctly different look, didn't he? Gunn's always meant bid-ness, but now he's got direction. Good call Cyridel!

"I'm still flyin'...that's enough." ~ Mal

HJERMSTED

Thursday, May 8, 2003 4:38 PM

I couldn't help but imagine the different directions Angel, Wolfram & Hart can go.

Think of it, each main Angel character now has their own staff! I predict the ensemble cast will become even larger (allowing the main actors more time off... as Charisma had this year). Entire episodes can focus on one character and his/her subordinates with minimal-to-no interaction among the other main Angel characters.

This leaves the door open for any number of Mutant Enemy alumns to make appearances on Angel. Add to this that the Angel writing staff will now be comprised of the Mutant Enemy All-Stars from all three shows and... damn! Start season five right now!!! I don't want to wait all summer.

Personally, I like the possibilities of the new direction and think WB would be crazy to cancel the last Whedon show standing.

mattro

PS: This thought just crossed my mind... Though Firefly was set in the future and in space, structurally speaking, this new direction of Angel is the show most comparible to the dynamic on a Federation star ship, "Sr. officers report to the war room..." and all that. Factor in well-established characters and that Whedon twist and I sense a huge ratings hit for WB.

SCIFISIREN

Thursday, May 8, 2003 4:41 PM

I loved this season finale. I remember reading an interview with Joss in which he said they were going to take Angel in a new direction, but I never imagined this. Talk about breathing new life into a dead puppy. It feels almost like a new show! But with each of them having their own departments and doing their own thing... it's bound to ruin the closeness a bit. I mean, how much of a team can they be if they are all on different sides of the building?

Not to spoil, but I also read an interview with Charisma and she talked about how fun it was to play a bad girl for once and hinted that there are going to be some steamy love scenes between her and Angel (I guess W&H have something to do with making that possible). As a Buffy and Angel fan I’m sorta getting more and more used to the idea of them being together. But my hold out is all Joss's fault. He worked the B/A love story into the ground. By the time Angel left I was ecstatic... but it still made an impression.

I also can't wait to see how this all comes to a head and we learn W&H real reason for all this. When that axe falls it's gonna be a beauty, I'm sure.

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Okay... essay over!
Sci-Fi Siren

INDIANABANZAI

Thursday, May 8, 2003 5:05 PM

I thought it was clever that there was no dialogue during the credits at the beginning of act one, so there were no distractions as the names appeared onscreen. Gunn (i think) spoke right after "Written and Directed by Tim Minear" appeared onscreen.

HJERMSTED

Thursday, May 8, 2003 9:22 PM

Check out Peter David's review of the Angel season finale episode, 'Home'.

http://peterdavid.malibulist.com/gmlog/00000378.html

Oh and how cool was the 'Necro-tempered' glass in Angel's new office? Does this mean Angel can work on his tan while he's at work?

mattro

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, May 8, 2003 10:02 PM

I really liked Connor when he first came on, he had a kind of feral human way about him, but he was good. Then he became nasty, snotty, and whiny, not to mention uncaring. So he finally sunk to killing innocent people, or trying to. I thought it was good they got him a new start. If he still has his powers we'll probably see more of him, which is good now that he seems to be decent.

There are so many directions they can take now, and it doesn't even have to be a con. If W&H really did ditch LA they might have thrown their newly rebuilt resources to Angel and co. just to keep them in LA doing their good right there, rather than trying to figure out where the evil lawyers went and what they're up to.

Lilah could yet be saved, cause if her contract was to the LA branch than Team Angel now has control of all it's assets including her.

Anyway a good finale, and can’t wait to see where they go with it next.

SPIKEEQUALSYUM

Thursday, May 8, 2003 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
This leaves the door open for any number of Mutant Enemy alumns to make appearances on Angel. Add to this that the Angel writing staff will now be comprised of the Mutant Enemy All-Stars from all three shows and... damn! Start season five right now!!! I don't want to wait all summer.

yay! that means Angel will have room for Spike in his show! i love when they're in same show. You look to the left, and there's a gorgeous brunette man. You look to your write, and WOW. That bleached blonde is HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.

wee! what could be better?

Spike = yum.

MERLINDREA

Friday, May 9, 2003 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
I really liked Connor when he first came on, he had a kind of feral human way about him, but he was good. Then he became nasty, snotty, and whiny, not to mention uncaring. So he finally sunk to killing innocent people, or trying to. I thought it was good they got him a new start. If he still has his powers we'll probably see more of him, which is good now that he seems to be decent.

You know, I was wondering about the whole Connor thing (after my first euphoria that we are rid off him :-)). In this forum, somebody else earlier mentioned, that it is very important for Joss to show that actions have consequences. That you can't just kill people and get off with it. But what about Connor? He helped killing the girl to bring Jasmine in the World and he seemed quite willing to kill a whole bunch of shoppers plus Cordy. But his 'consequence' now is a life in peace, with his father having sold his soul? What message is that supposed to convene?

Merl *wondering*

SCIFISIREN

Friday, May 9, 2003 8:35 PM

I actually think Connor didn't mean to kill anyone. Remember the statement when Angel entered? "You got in. I knew you would" I think Conner set up a trap hoping that Angel would just kill him. He knew Angel would never take such an action unless he felt he had no choice and he knew that Angel would do just about anything to help innocents, especially Cordy. I believe he really did love her, they both did, he just didn't want his life anymore. I think he really thought he could never find peace. He knows his father loved him and that wasn't enough, he knew Jas made everyone felt loved and happy, but he never felt it. I think he truely gave up but didn't have it in him to kill himself so he made sure Angel did it for him.

Sci-Fi Siren

ZELDA

Saturday, May 10, 2003 10:04 PM

In this case I think the consequences have been transferred: Angel has consciously taken them up for Connor, in order to give his son peace. I'm guessing Angel's interaction with the sr. partners at W&H not always be smooth, and there will be plenty of opportunities to have this choice rubbed in his face/used against him.

btw - REALLY excited that Connor may be all gone now. Never, ever liked that kid. The writers and the actor clearly made very specific choices and stuck to them, I just never thought they made for compelling television. Really, as an audience member, there's a very finite amount of whining one can take from a character when one truly does not care about them, at all.

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