OOC 27 'Adventures in GunRunning' GR RP

I realize that I no longer have a right to an opinion, but I do have a suggestion.

If I were you, I would start the current scene again from the beginning - start a new thread, and take up where you choose after the hiatus.

Create a new OOC and a new post thread and cut/paste only what you choose to save from the old one. That way, a lot of issues are no longer ... issues.

- DeeDee

Once you pull the pin, Mr. Handgrenade is no longer your friend.

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Capn said
Yes, I am annoyed - if anybody had actually READ the post, they would find that Damon ACCIDENTALLY shot Mal in a reflexive clenching at being called a 'catimite'. It wasn't a conscience decision.

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If you knew what "catamite" meant, ignore this post. otherwise, here's what Merriam Webster had to say about it

catamite: Etymology: Latin catamitus, from Catamitus Ganymede, from Etruscan Catmite, from Greek GanymEdEs: a boy kept by a pederast

And just to make sure it was what I thought it was, I looked up "pedarast" as well and found out it was EXACTLY what it sounded like.

The problem I'm having is this: when did Mal make the leap from "master" as written in the blended post with you and Debs, to "pederast"? Granted, Mal's made some pretty smutty leaps--how he first referred to River when he saw her naked in the cryo chamber springs to mind.

However, none of the other characters were supposed to know about this--not even Rowan. Damon hadn't actually spoken of it to anybody so there's no way that MAL could have overheard it either.

Using "catamite", then having Damon react to it unconsciously might have worked, if the exposition was there to back it up. Not to mention Damon's not an educated fella and likely wouldn't have known what "catamite" meant--unless it's more widely used elsewhere and I'm just not aware of it. Now, I suspect Mal was just trying to get a rise out of the boy, but I didn't read it that way initially.

And I'll admit for me, part of the problem with that post was having to wade through the syntax you use for Mal's speech and figure out what he was saying. The way you use punctuation to superimpose Mal's accent (as you perceive it) over the dialogue can get excessive at times, and strikes me as fairly frivolous in the long run. You may recall ages ago I mentioned that it's distracting for me when Mal's syntax is taken to such an extreme--so again, it may just be me.

The scene was well-written--as all of your work has been--but may have been posted ahead of its time.

*EDIT*

Having already resigned, you really didn't have to delete the scene--take your ball and go home, as it were. You might have trusted us to be creative enough to get around it.

The best directors, I've heard, are the ones who allow their actors some leeway to reinterpret the characters as THEY see them. This includes giving them all the information they're going to need BEFORE shooting the scene, to get the job done.

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Originally posted by Channain:
I also checked out StoryCrafter.com, suggested by DeeDee, and it could very well be the way to go.

We still have a couple of people to hear from, I think, and may want to wait until after the Labor Day/Dragon*Con weekend to fire up again.

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And what a Dragon*Con it was for us Browncoats. Didn't have all the cast present, but the four that were rocked the house.

Anyways. I'm flying home today and will be back at the real computer laaate tonight. Which means I probably won't do anything again online 'til tomorrow. Including looking at storycrafter.com.

Until then... keep flyin'.

Shaz

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Mal: "Define interesting."
Wash: "'Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die?'"

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Channain my friend,

I was not planning on getting in on this again, but you know how it goes. And I can say what I am going to say perfectly knowing that I have it right. This is not supposition on my part.

Mal’s choice of word had nothing to do what-so-ever, with any perceived truth concerning Damon, (and this HAS been explained to Squee). I am not sure it really deserves an explanation here, but … MAL used a word that was the worst thing he could think of that he assumed DAMON would not know. He was not trying to imply anything.

I personally have accidentally pushed someone’s hot button on more than one occasion, so I know that it happens.

I was running Damon and it was my considered opinion that he WOULD have heard the word under his circumstances and resented it.

I was NOT aware of what the Capn was going to write, we set it up so that each person is as surprised by the dialog as one would be in a conversation. Damon’s reaction was MINE and mine alone, and the Capn did not know what I was going to do …

The other thing is, this was off screen to the rest of you. A surprise reaction was called for. One does not get a genuine surprise reaction by asking “okay we are going to do this, if it is all right with everyone else. Please act surprised”. No one else runs their moves by the director before posting, why should we have run our move by you? You cannot have known what was going on, so what information did you need before we did our scene? I find myself confused, but then again it really is a moot point.

The scene still exists, it was deleted not destroyed. In reading the OOC it was clear to me that the intention was to unshoot MAL. Apparently it was clear to the Capn too. This decision was not discussed, and I did not disagree with it when I was advised it had been deleted. If your intention was to remove the whole point behind the scene, and there are issues with Damon and Mal’s actions, then you should have your replacements re-create what happened after the PING grid was destroyed. There is a whole ‘nother conversation there that still remains and you can pick and choose what you would keep of it.

But if the issue was with our last scene and how WE wrote it and how WE as the only players involved interpreted our OWN actions, and that seems to both of us to be the case, then you do not need that scene to go on. Creative you may be, but unshooting Mal with that scene in existence is the equivalent of Geezer leaving through an airlock in the middle of a voyage with no back-up explanation of where he is going and who is picking him up in the middle of nowhere. I hated that, and I won’t be a party to having the same thing done in my name. I won't have my action turned into a mind movie, because it wasn't. It was an action, I made it, and I stand by my interpretation. I understand your disagreement with it, however it was my decision alone.

I have no hard feelings. I still have friends here I hope. But … I don’t want to argue over my words any more.

- DeeDee


Once you pull the pin, Mr. Handgrenade is no longer your friend.

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