Any Firefly Fans Become Angel/Buffy Fans?

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FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, August 9, 2005 6:02 PM

Nope.. in fact, I dislike Buffy (the show) and dislike Buffy (the actor/character) even worse.

I thought Faith was potentially 10 times the Slayer Buffy was because she didn't have so much sanctimonious little prigg baggage weighing down her every move like the Buffster did - and if she ever got it together, well....

Now Spike, he was the only 'character' the show really had, and they went and neutered him, so... not so much.

Willow, well, that's just eye-mind-candy, is what it is.

I think the only time I ever LIKED Buffy was cave-buffy from the bad beer episode, and that maybe cause she JUST SHUT UP, for once.
(Her whiny voice has the same emotional impact as a dental drill folks, let's not kid ourselves.)

Angel never hooked me in either, on Buffy he was just a broody, sulky less-often-present wishful-thinking love-interest a'la Anime...

And on his own show.. blah, snore... it just didn't have the chemistry to maintain any interest for me, save for ONE episode.

I was, admittedly, on the floor holding my stomach for most of "Smile Time".. puppet Angel was downright HI-larious.

But mostly, gahh..

My girl likes the stuff, but I wind up rooting for the bad guys more often than not.

-F

JAYNESMYBOY

Monday, August 22, 2005 10:16 PM

I, like a few here never gave Buffy or Angel the time of day when they were on the air. When Firefly came around, I got hooked. Went back and bought everything Whedon and watched all of Buffy(loved it) and Im through season 1 of Angel(really like it, growing to love it)

I agree it was so great watching them in order, comercial free, and in my own time.

REGINAROADIE

Monday, August 22, 2005 11:14 PM

I've only started to get into BUFFY. Right now, my brother and I are getting through season 4. ANGEL season 1 is waiting for me at the library and season 2 of ANGEL and season 5 of BUFFY are on hold for me.

But I'm really digging BUFFY. I'll post my full thoughts on the show once I've seen all 7 seasons.

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And wow! Hey! What's this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like ... ow ... ound ... round ... ground! That's it! That's a good name - ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me?

DIETCOKE

Monday, August 22, 2005 11:38 PM

It's fun to see the cross over. I remember when I first came here, there wasn't that much cross over, but when people give the shows a little time for the characters to warm up, it is truely a joy for those in need of a Joss fix.

NY/NJ Browncoats: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly_nyc

JAYNESMYBOY

Friday, August 26, 2005 9:54 AM

You know, speaking of the cross over affect.... i wish i had seen both Angel and Buffy in the order they were showed. I watched all of Buffy in order, really loved the show... and now I have been on to Angel....

It was very cool when i finished season 2.... they get back from the Hosts homeworld and Im not even thinking about whats going on with Buffy in the time line.....

Then they walk in and see Willow sitting there, crying.... it choked me up.

Remembering Buffy;s second death... and how that would affect Angel. It was a cool moment.

DECLAN

Monday, September 5, 2005 7:25 PM

I went through the Firefly DVD's 3 times before I tried Angel and Buffy. By that time I was desperate for anything remotely resembling Firefly.

I started watching some Angel early Season 2 episodes on TNT. After about 4 episodes I was hooked and tried to find the great deal ($15) that Amazon had had on the Angel Season 1 DVD. That deal was long gone but I was hooked and paid full price for Season 1 and then one-by-one the other seasons (I couldn't wait for TNT to work though the series).

I got interested in Buffy after watching Angel 1-8 ("I Will Remember You" [w/ Buffy]) and, by chance, Buffy 3-9 ("Amends" [w/Angel]). I find the doomed Angel-Buffy love story to be touching.

As I working my way through Angel, I started to watch Buffy on FX, starting with the last few episdoes of the 6th Season. Then I tried to time my Buffy Season 7 with my Angel Season 4.

Then I went back and started with Buffy Season 1. I know -- now -- that this is not the right way to watch things. However, if I had started with Buffy Season 1 I'm not sure I would have stayed with it. Season 1 was good but if it had been my first introduction I might have found it to be too whimsical and too "high school".

The story arcs in all three series are wonderful and add depth and richness to the series. However, they also make it very difficult for a casual viewer to dive right into any random episode.

Also, the characters in Buffy and Angel grow and develop much more than is common in episodic television. So, unless you are watching in sequence you don't see the growth and understand the changes. Whereas, TV Captain Kirk is pretty much Captain Kirk, regardless of the season.

My preferences for the shows probably reflects my background. I'm middle-aged, a lifelong SF fan, and from Los Angeles.

Firefly is my favorite and I'm starting to know the dialog by heart.

Angel would be 2nd favorite. The protagonist is easier for me to identify with and I thought the show was more "adult" than Buffy.

I enjoyed Buffy and someday will watch it all the way through again. The latter seasons were more interesting to me than the early ones.

[By the way, I missed Firefly when it came out on TV. I saw the ads on Fox during the World Series and read some of the hype. I was intrigued by some of the publicity -- but cautious because a "space western" brings to the mind of an old-time SF reader some of the worst pulp SF where lazy genre writers substituted "blasters" for "six-guns". I think I saw part of "Train Job" and it didn't do anything for me. But that's a thread that has been beat to death.

I heard about Firefly on Jerry Pournelle's web site because he had run into Jewell Straite at a convention and she had extolled the virtues on the show. After Jerry's mail was 4 to 1 in favor of the show, I bought the DVD.

I'm glad I first watched Firefly on DVD. I had a new 50" HDTV, a HD upconverter DVD player and good sound. I compare what my DVD's look like and compare it to the quality of the SciFi channel showings and I shudder to think about watching my beloved show that way.]

I'm sorry for the length of this ramble. I've been lurking on this site for over a year and I finally had to post something for kindred spirits.

DIETCOKE

Monday, September 5, 2005 7:55 PM

Welcome! I'm glad to see people being exposed to all things Whedon. He is such a delight! Enjoyed your post. Keep 'em coming.

NY/NJ Browncoats: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly_nyc

RIVERNOT

Monday, September 5, 2005 8:05 PM

I tried, honest I did. I tried watching Buffy when it first came out. Nope. I tried watching Buffy after FF came out. Nope. I have tried again recently for both Buffy and Angel thinking that if I like FF there must be something in Buffy and Angel I like. Basically, nope. Spike is pretty cool, sometimes, but Buffy (the character) whines toooo much and Angel (the character) is...I don't know...dull? Maybe I missed something, but I just can't make myself watch more to find out what. It's hard to get into a series if'n you don't care about any of the characters.

SHORNY

Monday, September 5, 2005 10:43 PM

When Buffy come out I thought it sounded like the dumbest thing ever. I only stumbled upon the end of season 3 by accident, didn’t know what it was, got hooked. I’ve seen most of seasons 1-3.

Then I heard of Angel, and thought that was the stupidest spin-off ever and swore I would never watch it. Again I found it by accident and enjoy it (mostly for Amy Acker…hot). I watched all of Angel on DVD (LOVE Netflix. Great for watching TV shows without having to buy the DVD set) it not my favorite show but with the other crap that they try to pass off as drama anything by Joss is worlds better. I plan on watching the rest of Buffy someday.

WHITEFALL

Monday, September 5, 2005 11:02 PM

I'm slowly making my way throgh Buffy with Netflix, even though I am the kind of person who would watch it again, this way is just cheaper.

I really enjoy buffy, and I'm sorta looking forward to starting angel once i finish season 3, (except that cordy has to be a main character... eesh) but I have a question...

Is it REALLY a good idea to watch the whole Buffy season 4 first, then watch angel season 1, then go buffy season 5, etc? because i could do that.... I'm just wondering if I will find it worthwhile? (hell, i could even alternate between the discs, thanks to netflix, buffy 1/angel1/buffy2/angel2, if it came to that...)

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