Tim Minear writing Spike flick?

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KGAZETTE

Monday, August 22, 2005 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by YT:
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I don't think Joss would let a project like this get too far out of his hands. He's a control "enthusiast" and a professonal script doctor, and it's HIS Buffyverse, after all. So I don't think there's much to fear. I won't make any judgements on a flick I haven't seen - that's my bottom line.

I'm not in the least worried about Tim Minear writing a Firefly movie, even on his own. But I'm withholding judgement on the BDM so, it isn't much of a hardship to withhold judgement on a sequel.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . .

I was actually referring to the Spike movie in question, but I suppose my comments stand for Serenity and it's impending sequels as well. Though I would like to see Joss stay on completely for any Firefly sequels... even if he co-writes with someone like Tim. It's not really a worry factor, it's more of a thing with me because I'm a screen-writer-in-training and I like to see people stick with their stuff when they do sequels. It's like how Terminator 3 bothers me because it wasn't Jimmy Boy who wrote it.

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JUTIN

Monday, August 22, 2005 2:27 AM

DO IT TIM!

Tim, bring us "Spike"

STILLSHINY

Monday, August 22, 2005 3:11 AM

If I recall Tim wrote some of the best Angel episodes. I'm too tired right now to remember which ones, but I know the one with Angel in the 50's where we first get the truth on the Hyperion is one of them.

Ok Here's what the IMDB says

"Firefly" (2002/I) TV Series (writer) (episode 1.01 "Train Job, The") (writer) (episode 1.02 "Bushwhacked") (writer) (episode 1.05 "Out of Gas") (writer) (episode 1.15 "Message, The")
... aka Firefly: The Series (USA)

"Angel" (1999/I) TV Series (staff writer) (1999-2002) (teleplay) (episode 2.09 "Trial, The") (writer) (episode 1.06 "Sense and Sensitivity") (writer) (episode 1.09 "Hero") (writer) (episode 1.11 "Somnambulist") (writer) (episode 1.15 "Prodigal, The") (writer) (episode 1.19 "Sanctuary") (writer) (episode 2.02 "Are You Now or Have You Ever Been") (writer) (episode 2.07 "Darla") (writer) (episode 2.10 "Reunion") (writer) (episode 2.15 "Reprise") (writer) (episode 2.16 "Epiphany") (writer) (episode 2.21 "Through the Looking Glass") (writer) (episode 3.03 "Old Gang of Mine, That") (writer) (episode 3.06 "Billy") (writer) (episode 3.09 "Lullaby") (writer) (episode 3.14 "Couplet") (writer) (episode 3.21 "Benediction") (writer) (episode 4.22 "Home")

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YT

Monday, August 22, 2005 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by Stillshiny:
Ok Here's what the IMDB says

"Firefly" (2002/I) TV Series (writer) (episode 1.01 "Train Job, The") (writer) (episode 1.02 "Bushwhacked") (writer) (episode 1.05 "Out of Gas") (writer) (episode 1.15 "Message, The")
... aka Firefly: The Series (USA)

It would appear that IMDB makes no distinction betwixt sole credit (Bushwhacked & Outa Gas) and co-credit (Train Job & the Message).

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . .

ZEEK

Monday, August 22, 2005 6:03 PM

This would be interesting. Spike has never really been the main guy. He's always just been a side show. Don't know how well he'll do in his own story. I mean his backstory is pretty lame. He's a fairly confused vampire. One moment he's evil the next he's not. He never is much for planning. What could a movie with him be about? Chasing after Buffy? Trying to one up Angel? What else does Spike do?

Don't get me wrong. He's a great character and I love his one liners. He just doesn't strike me as a main focus character.

THRAWN

Monday, August 22, 2005 8:02 PM

Tim Minear is amazing. His contributions to Angel 2nd and 3rd season made it 5x the show it would have been (just look at what happened to 4th without him and Greenwalt). He wrote Are You Know Or Have You Ever Been, the one about the Hyperion you mentioned, which is my favorite Angel ever, he wrote and directed Darla, which was almost as brilliant, and he also directed two episodes at the end of third damn near perfectly.

And effects work on The Message was done after they knew the show was cancelled - I can well believe they didn't apply their usual attention to detail.

BATMARLOWE

Monday, August 22, 2005 8:25 PM

Maybe an interesting Spike story could be one set in the 20th century before he came into Sunnydale but has a thematic connection to whatever Joss thinks the next step in Spike's life should be.

A Spike movie might also explain how they survived NFA and its aftermath. It's worth it just for that.

If Joss trusts Tim Minear that's cool with me. According to the commentaries by other writers, Joss is heavily involved with the scripts. I would think Joss would have heavy input into this project even though he may not take writer credit.

But it's a challenge to come up with an story that is worthy of being 88 minutes in length that won't give us "a been there, done that" feeling.

Still some Shanshu possibilities; maybe there's an 88 minute story there.

Tossing Faith and/or Illyria in the mix could help.

ZEEK

Monday, August 22, 2005 8:58 PM

I think an Illyria or Faith movie could be really good. We don't really know much about either of them. I just hope they don't have a "Spike" movie that is really all about some other character.

BATMARLOWE

Monday, August 22, 2005 10:03 PM

I agree. Spike has to dominate if it's to be a Spike movie. If they use no other character from the Buffyverse, then they'll have to create some new supporting characters. And that could be a breath of fresh air.

Another challenge is we'll want a lot questions answered. Because this may be our only way of getting them answered.

How did they survive? What're the repercussions of the final battle? Where's Angel? Where's Illyria? Where are Willow, Xander, Giles, Faith, Wood? Where's Buffy? What are they doing? What about all these new Slayers? What's their role in the Buffyverse?

So they'll have to deal with answering them or why they're not answering them.

Maybe he bumps into Andrew in the first five minutes and Andrew rattles off all those answers and Spike says "oh, alright." And then Andrew leaves and the story begins.

FRISBEE141

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:11 AM

When you think of it, you could deal with the aging issue by passing a lot of time ... and maybe bring in someone from the Firefly cast.

After all, the way Angel ended, a Spike movie could go anywhere.

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