Sin City - a movie for Browncoats (the badass ones)
POSTED BY: WildHeavenFarm
UPDATED: Friday, August 19, 2005 14:24
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Quote:I don't think it can be stressed enough how much you SHOULDN'T watch that flick with a skirt (er, I mean lady) sittin' next to ya.
Originally posted by BrowncoatXiong:
My wife and I went to see this in the theater. Very misogynistic and boring.
Ladies don't cotton to misogyny Chrisisall
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Kudos, I mean good job! I did the same for Texas Chainsaw Massacre at your age.
Movie ratings don't apply to dudes smart enough to circumvent them.
Bad influence Chrisisall
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"Sin City treats objects like women, man."
But, seriously. How is the movie misogynistic? I don't understand this argument (probably because it's stupid).
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With Jessica Alba tied up with her hands over her head and being whipped. Completely unnecessary. It was there only for the Male View.
We, the audience, were supposed to be titilated by the thought of and threat of her being raped until she screamed.
Yeah, because I'm sure most men get hot at the thought of women being tortured prior to their brutal rape and eventual murder. Come on, give people more credit than that. (And if it was all about exploiting Jessica Alba, I think there would have been more emphasis on the "strip" part of her job title "stripper.")
Almost all of the main (Dwight, and especially Marv and Hartigan) characters' motivations stem from a chivalrous need to protect the women around them. That might be "old-fashioned," but I don't think it degrades women. Besides, most of the time a woman saves their ass anyway. I mean, little Miho sure wasn't sitting around knitting doilies.
The film is full of violent, despicable characters doing violent, despicable things. But just because certain characters treat women badly in a movie doesn't mean the film itself advocates misogyny. Does the film advocate cannibalism because of the character of Kevin? No, of course not.
Not to mention the fact that a great majority of the violence is perpetrated against men. . .but, nevermind that. . .
Whatever. If anyone went into a movie titled Sin City and got offended, they probably deserve what they got. I'm just saying, is all.
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An excellent post. My feelings exactly. I mean, any kind of stereotyping done on the women characters was done to just as profound an extent on the male characters.
I enjoyed it. It's definitely a poem.
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Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
"Sin City treats objects like women, man."
But, seriously. How is the movie misogynistic? I don't understand this argument (probably because it's stupid).Quote:
With Jessica Alba tied up with her hands over her head and being whipped. Completely unnecessary. It was there only for the Male View.
We, the audience, were supposed to be titilated by the thought of and threat of her being raped until she screamed.
Yeah, because I'm sure most men get hot at the thought of women being tortured prior to their brutal rape and eventual murder. Come on, give people more credit than that. (And if it was all about exploiting Jessica Alba, I think there would have been more emphasis on the "strip" part of her job title "stripper.")
Almost all of the main (Dwight, and especially Marv and Hartigan) characters' motivations stem from a chivalrous need to protect the women around them. That might be "old-fashioned," but I don't think it degrades women. Besides, most of the time a woman saves their ass anyway. I mean, little Miho sure wasn't sitting around knitting doilies.
The film is full of violent, despicable characters doing violent, despicable things. But just because certain characters treat women badly in a movie doesn't mean the film itself advocates misogyny. Does the film advocate cannibalism because of the character of Kevin? No, of course not.
Not to mention the fact that a great majority of the violence is perpetrated against men. . .but, nevermind that. . .
Whatever. If anyone went into a movie titled Sin City and got offended, they probably deserve what they got. I'm just saying, is all.
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"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."
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pant, pant, pant,
a few minutes more at least,
rant, rant, rant,
my churning belly of a beast.
take heed my anxious, fellow A-level browncoats,
and settle that stomach of yours with some fine Scots Porridge Oats,
hear the imagined, wise words of one Jewel Staite,
"you are all the masters of your own fate".
let not exam results squeeze your cranium through a funnel,
'cause there is always at least some light at the end of the tunnel,
and I have heard the majestic space monkey's call,
for a life spent worrying, waiting, is no life at all!
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Those persons who complain of certain Firefly eps being too violent to watch (and you know who you are) might want to watch something else, like the remake of Where the Red Fern Grows, or something.
Hey Wild,
If you're talking about me and my tendency to complain about Ariel's 'gratuitous violence':
I was made to go see this film with a group of friends, and given as how I can't cope with the violence in Ariel, you can imagine how terified I must have been!
I had my eyes shut for half the film but I did actually enjoy it to a certain extent. I thought bits of it were hilarious.
The one bit that really disturbed me was:
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when the woman says something like "he ate my arm and made me watch".That really creeped me out. I was surpised they got away with such a twisted film, essentially about paedaphilia and cannibalism.I guess they wouldn't have done if it hadn't been graphic novel style.
On the whole, a good movie but disturbing.
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Dowhatnow, with the poetry?
Mary
Always a beast, never a burden. 
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*laughlaughsnort* Two "Big Lebowski" references, yes! Now we just need to work in some "Fear and Loathing".
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Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
"Sin City treats objects like women, man."
This was definitely a movie for men, by men. Makes it a dead cert I would like, being the most misogynistic woman I know.
Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.
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I bought it Tuesday when it came out, and when I looked at the features I said, shit! They are so gonna come out with a much better version in like a month and I'm gonna have to find a new home for this one. I really needed to have the Willia/Alba cover though. I have big plans to watch this this weekend.
And I can't believe that the violence or whatever in this movie can hold a candle to the demented French movies I've been watching as of late, so I look forward to this. If anything it just seems so beautifully filmed. I'm a movie fan for all sorts of reasons, cinematography, dialogue, characterization, a movie doesn't need to have all to be great. I am looking forward to this.
BTW: they are getting ready to start production on Sin City 2: A Dame to Kill For. Anyone else hear about the Frank Miller graphic novel 300 (about the spartans) also being made into a film? If Frank's involved I think it'll be good.
And thats my 2 cents
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Hehehe, funny that some of ya'll don't recommend seeing the flick with a girl.
My girlefriend at the time loved it especially the couple of castrations (mildly disturbing that part).
One could say that the noir genre is by its nature misogynistic...
Ah well, I loved the movie and I love the graphic novels.
On a random note, by now ex-girl had this great brown duster on when we saw the movie. I had to quote the line "that's a mighty fine coat you got there" after the movie.
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