Real World Event Discussions

Intelligent Design

POSTED BY: rue
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 17:04
VIEWED: 14833
PAGE 14 of 14

Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I don't belive in Free Will, but definitely in Free Willy.

Just couldn't resist.



Yes. You could have. You should have.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

RUE
Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:16 AM

Oh. ....... You see, I get to watch a lot of kids' films. It wasn't a "grown-up" joke. But I get how it, ahem, could be. Sorry.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, August 15, 2005 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
randomness is a pervasive, persistent, and ultimately dominant trend (otherwise known as entropy).



I don't know what you mean by your statement about randomness. Certainly there are random elements in evolution, such as in mutation, but I would NOT say that evolution is dominated by randomness. The effects of natural selection are highly nonrandom.

Entropy is not the same thing as randomness. Entropy is a thermodynamic property which is usually described as a tendency towards a decrease in order of a closed system.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:41 AM

Entropy has many meanings Diego.
It can indicate randomness, as in data signals the entropy of a signal is how easilly compressable the signal is. If a signal is truly random it cant be losslessly compressed as it has no entropy.

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:04 PM

Detractors and proponents of I.D. alike tend to make the assumption that the design is somehow complete or that human beings are the "end result." HKCavalier

And the basis of evolution? The dinos and primates and Neanderthals were that bronze in the kettle and so are we, even if we don't know what we're going to be turned into?

NewOld
"This is why we lost, you know... Superior numbers."

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME