MAJOR SPOILERS: THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS PAHDNER!
POSTED BY: DucesTecum
UPDATED: Sunday, August 14, 2005 09:51
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Just HAD to chime in here.
First, it is unfortunate that some may have not quite understood by the title of this thread. For future reference for those who want to post possible spoilers, whenever my daughter does a thread that contains spoilers she does something this in her post:
WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!
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ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO KNOW???
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THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!
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OK, HERE GOES!
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And then she posts the information. This really gives a person the chance to back out.
Okey dokey, now for thoughts on the theme of the thread itself.
As one person pointed out - this is Joss! On one level, anyone who knows his work comes to expect untimely, beloved, character deaths. This is just a small part of what makes his work so real, so great, and so loved by us all - even if we hate it at the same time.
And I believe that a part of this is related not to what Joss particularly wants, but to the actors themselves not signing up for sequals. It may not have been Joss's idea at first (I truly can't believe he would willingly get rid of Alan T.). But I believe from things I've read that Alan was done after this movie. So what better way for Joss to handle that then to give us a HUGE emotional hit.
Someone posted about the movie being an emotional rollercoaster. I second that. There were so many ups and downs, laughs and gasps, cheers and cries in this movie that no one, I repeat, no one, could leave this movie indiferent. And that is Joss. Indiferent is not in his vocabulary. You will FEEL this movie, whether you know about what's to come or not. I admit I didn't know and would have hated to be spoiled for that particular scene. My daughter and I saw a pre-screening in Georgetown and frankly, we were literally in tears. But we would have been just about as affected even if we had known in advance. It is so perfeclty done, because it is Joss. And what more could you ask of a truly great movie, as one that leaves you with actually FEELING SOMETHING. Trust me, whether you know things or not, you will NOT walk out of this movie feeling "meh".
OK, sorry to have ranted and rambled. But I feel so strongly, having seen the movie, that it is truly great and no one, fan or newbie, spoiled or not spoiled, will not walk out of the theater saying to themselves, Oh God, I need to see it again!
Ok, gonna take the idea posted above and grab some beers and watch Firefly again. Why? Cause I can!
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Oh, just had another thought. Ducestecum - you might want to edit your original post to ensure that those who may be confused as to whether there are major spoilers ahead don't go any further. Just a thought!
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Originally posted by embers:
But But
HP and the Order of the Phoenix came out two years ago!!!
I was figuring that if people hadn't read it yet then they were never going to.
Sorry, thought you were talking about Half Blood Prince! Phew! My apologies, I read it then glazed over and tried to instantly forget. Didn't work but I didn't want to study it intently.
I'm not sure if you can do spoilers for HP5 or even HP4 because the movies aren't out at the cinemas and lots of people will be keen to see them yet will never open the book in their lives.
Fools!
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I was one of the unfortunate people to stumble onto a spoiler for Wash's death back after the first round of screenings. It upset me a little but i knew that Joss had his reasons and i would find out those when i watched to movie. I saw Serenity on 6/23 and even being spoiled i was still suprised and shocked by his death. (I might have had a slight case of denial going in.) I understood his death though. It wasn't meaningless like so many upset fans are saying.
This movie made me FEEL like no other movie has and i eagerly anticipate to see it again opening night.
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I think we can all agree that spoilers are bad, especially for a Joss Whedon production. That's one of the main reasons I was surprised there were so many advance screenings. There was just no way that those spoilers could be kept contained for five or six months. A friend of my son's was inadvertently spoiled here as well, in a follow up post to something posted in the Blue Sun Room. As far as I know my son still doesn't know the spoiler, and I hope it stays that way.
Something from my own experience points out the main reason it is unfortunate that others have been spoiled. I saw Serenity on May 5, and I loved the majority of it, but was totally taken out of the film for the last 15-20 minutes, following Wash's death. Brooded about it for days, vented in several threads over on the UB. Gradually I started listening to others opinions, and felt it was necessary to give the BDM and Joss another chance to woo me. I also got to see a 6/23 screening, and the shock was not as intense, and I was more able to accept the inevitable. While I cannot go so far as to use the term brilliant as so many others have, I do think Serenity is a very, very good film, and most definitely it is one that will have a powerful emotional impact on you.
During some of those discussions on the UB, I was also spoiled for some Buffy and Angel episodes I had not seen up to that point. Possibly the character death that has caused the most stir amongst Jossverse fans occurs in the sixth season. I have since seen that season, and considering that death was known in advance, it had almost no effect on me whatsoever, whereas if I had not known it I am sure I would have been devastated. That death, and I would assume any death in a Joss show, is intended to have an impact, and it is sad that not everyone will be able to see Serenity unspoiled.
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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"I look forward to the day and time that recolletctions of my FIREFLY experience...um...doesn't make me cry. I really look forward to that day."
--Ron Glass
Guess that quote is especially poignant now.
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