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Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:09 PM

"Gen. George Casey, the top commander in Iraq, has said repeatedly that "fairly substantial" reductions were expected after the election if the political process stayed on track, if the insurgency did not expand and if the training of Iraqi security forces proceeded as planned."--
from cnn.com

"I'm smellin' a lot of if from this plan, Captain."



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Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:44 PM

I think we will see reductions in the number of personell stationed in Iraq, and rather soon.

We're gonna need 'em in Iran.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think we will see reductions in the number of personell stationed in Iraq, and rather soon.

We're gonna need 'em in Iran.

Chrisisall



We're not going to Iran.

Look at just a few things that occured prior to going into Iraq in 2003.
17 U.N. resolutisons passed.
A 15-0 Security Council vote
U.N. inspectors being harrassed , kicked out of country.
A U.N. Food for Oil scam which completely undermined the entire U.N. process to reel in Iraq..
Iraqi military targeting US/British war plans patroling the no fly zone. A clear violation of the cease fire agreement.
Attempted assasination of a United States President ( George 41 ) in Kuwait by Saddam back agents.

To date, nothing Iran has done comes anywhere remotely near what led up to the war in Iraq. Even if its found that Iran is sending arms/supplies to the terrorist in Iraq ( like we don't know that ) that still does not constitute going to war.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:28 PM

This has been the plan from day 1 really. Regime change, organise a new friendly government, train them up and then get out of there (maybe barring the occasional military base, if possible).

They just didn't have any details for that plan though.

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Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
We're not going to Iran.
Look at just a few things that occured prior to going into Iraq in 2003.
17 U.N. resolutisons passed.
A 15-0 Security Council vote
U.N. inspectors being harrassed , kicked out of country.
A U.N. Food for Oil scam which completely undermined the entire U.N. process to reel in Iraq..
Iraqi military targeting US/British war plans patroling the no fly zone. A clear violation of the cease fire agreement.
Attempted assasination of a United States President ( George 41 ) in Kuwait by Saddam back agents.

To date, nothing Iran has done comes anywhere remotely near what lead up to the war in Iraq. Even if its found that Iran is sending arms/supplies to the terrorist in Iraq ( like we don't know that ) that still does not constitute going to war.

I think you're right. I certainly hope so. Part of what made Iraq a viable target was Saddam's megalomania. So far, the leadership in Iran seems a little shrewder than that. They're playing for time until they actually do get nukes, rather than bluffing that they already have them. They'll do whatever then can to avoid an invasion until they can provide a realistic deterrent.


SergeantX

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Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:45 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
This has been the plan from day 1 really. Regime change, organise a new friendly government, train them up and then get out of there (maybe barring the occasional military base, if possible).

They just didn't have any details for that plan though.



Bill Clinton's White House also had operational plans for the invasion of Iraq and the deposing of Saddam Hussein. Regime change in Iraq was a Clinton policy from about 1997 on.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
To date, nothing Iran has done comes anywhere remotely near what led up to the war in Iraq.

Please don't make me come up with a LIST of places that have done nothing near to what Iraq did prior to the invasion that we went into (and ed up) anyway.

Incredulous Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
To date, nothing Iran has done comes anywhere remotely near what led up to the war in Iraq.

Please don't make me come up with a LIST of places that have done nothing near to what Iraq did prior to the invasion that we went into (and ed up) anyway.

Incredulous Chrisisall



Thanks Chris... Been awful tired of saying it alone

When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:39 AM

De nada, mi amigo.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

We're not going to Iran.



Never say never. While I doubt the ability of the US to invade Iran in a similar fashion to our actions in Iraq, I doubt we would hesitate to make every effort to take the fight to them if the situation warranted it.

H

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