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MAJOR SPOILERS: THEM'S FIGHTIN' WORDS PAHDNER!

POSTED BY: DucesTecum
UPDATED: Sunday, August 14, 2005 09:51
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Friday, August 12, 2005 4:53 PM

Warning, rambling's on ahead...

Well here goes and a bunch of you will be so unhappy with me but...

I just read the thread about the EW article which stated that over 80M must be gathered in ordered to make a second movie.

And then another thread about Zoe and Wash having a baby.

I am so PO'd at Joss for killing off not one but TWO of my BDH's that I just may not see the movie. The idea of watching them die makes me sick. Not ever knowing the story about where Book came from or where he was going leaves a gaping hole that I don't believe Joss can fix.

I have also heard others mention that taking the Western element out of Serenity was not a good thing. Apparently, that was an aspect of the 'verse that was truly credible!

Then there's the thing about Zoe, Wash and a baby. Obviously, someone hasn't told that threadmaker about Wash. No Wash, no babies. Excuse me please, I think I'm going to be sick again.

I hate you Joss, but I love you too because without you there never would have been a Firefly.

"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling."

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Friday, August 12, 2005 5:02 PM

Have you even seen the movie yet?

If not then don't judge it until you have because if you do then you'll be missing one of the best experiences of your life.

Yes, things happen in this movie. It's not a long episode like Star Trek movies. It is an emotional roller coaster ride that takes the characters and the audience on an unforgiving but meaningful journey.

Anyways, without Book's death than Mal would have never found his faith and the last bit of the movie would have never happened. Without Wash's death, the audience wouldn't have felt that the stakes were raised and that it could be possible that no one was getting out alive. Plus Wash was the everyday man whom sacrifices his life for a greater cause them himself. Wash's cause was freedom and an undying love and he died for that.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Friday, August 12, 2005 5:22 PM

We actually learn a lot about Book's past without him stating exactly what he did. There's a very clear parallel between him and the Operative character. And just because someone is dead doesn't mean that we can't learn more about them. It's called "history". People learn it all the time.

Wash was a rock star. He went out being happy and doing what he loved and did it better than anyone else could have done. Serenity was without power and it was crashing very, very quickly. He landed it like a champ and saved everyones' asses. He was a true hero.

The grief is a good thing. It means you care about the characters as if they were real. And just like real people, they died.

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Friday, August 12, 2005 5:24 PM

Has anyone thought that Zoe might be pregnant?

"Hamsters is nice."

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Friday, August 12, 2005 5:39 PM

I agree. It sounds like you haven't even seen the movie. I can't believe you would judge such a work of art just by second hand information. It was the best movie I've seen this year and possibly ever. Very moving and powerful.

I too think we found out more than you think at first about Book. I also know Ron Glass told us he'd be back in future movies in some form or another. So, that's not the end of him. Of course Nathan also said that he took care of that Alan Tudyk guy so no worries about him coming back.

Anyway, give the movie a chance. Though if you've read all the spoilers I'm not sure how much of a rollercoaster it will be for you.

I love it.

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Friday, August 12, 2005 6:32 PM

No I haven't seen the movie yet and I want to thank you all for being such sweet sweet people and not flaming me for being upset.

I can't explain how much the thought of losing those two sickens me. I LOVE every one of them and the thought of losing any of them is well, unthinkable.

I know I am nuts. I have NEVER felt this way about any TV program! I'm even going to Dragon Con to meet them and I'm really too old for SciFi conventions actually.

Of course I have converted many of my coworkers and am the driving force behind gathering us all to be together the night of the premier. As well as other Nashvillians.

I have been so upset over this for so long that I guess I just had to vent and thank you for listening.

"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling."

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Friday, August 12, 2005 6:46 PM

First of all, it sucks that you were spoiled on the movie. But instead of getting upset, I highly recommend that you go see the movie and judge it for yourself. It really is a great film full of action and humor, and while it resolves most of the arcs from the TV show, it still sets the stage for future cinematic romps. By the end of the film you will clearly see all of the possibilities the story can take in future sequels.

"What y'all order a dead guy for?" - Jayne Cobb

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Friday, August 12, 2005 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DucesTecum:
Then there's the thing about Zoe, Wash and a baby. Obviously, someone hasn't told that threadmaker about Wash.



Yeah, and they'd go to the special hell if they did.

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Ain't. We. Just.

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Friday, August 12, 2005 7:10 PM

Just watch the movie. Seriously. The movie is amazing. Stop making assumptions about something you've never seen.

I mean, honestly, what would your reaction have been to a Buffy musical before it aired? Something along the lines of "that's going to suck". Best episode ever.

And the fact that you're so upset, by the way, justifies the deaths all by itself. Joss has made characters that we care about as much as real people, and so he's earned the right to show us just what real life is like - people die, and it's upsetting. Only true art is as successfully emotionally affecting as this.

It's amazing. Don't assume the worst. It's all done for a reason; Joss has proven himself a million times in the past, trust him this time too.

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Friday, August 12, 2005 7:56 PM

All of you are so sweet and I thank you for your kindness. I don't know why I got so upset about this today, I've known about it for months. Actually, I've been upset about it for months.

I'm going home, drink some beer and watch Firefly.

>>>>Ain't We Just<<<<<

You're Gorram Right!

"And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an over-abundance of schooling."

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