SHAMELESS (another pointless DA thread)
POSTED BY: Zoot
UPDATED: Sunday, August 21, 2005 18:49
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Logan, Joshua, Cindy and Alec became her new family. The people of Terminal City became her cause. To touch Logan again her obsession...
Small observation Chrisisall
Lovely!! I like it a lot...
You have a way with words qui est tres jolie, Monsieur... (I just got back from France) ...
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Zoot, did you finish After the Dark yet?
If so, give us a quick review 
(Est que le livre est tres jolie?)
Literary Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Zoot, did you finish After the Dark yet?
If so, give us a quick review
(Est que le livre est tres jolie?)
Literary Chrisisall
CIA - you're French translates as: "is the book is it very pretty?" but I'll let you off ... (N.B. looked for "pedantic" emoticon but couldn't find one)
In fact am only three quarters of the way through le roman "après la nuit" ...
But so far am thinking – huh! (that’s a Mal “hunh”! btw) this is just a set up to clear the way for Max and Logan to get their freak on and yet to provide enough peril that they don’t actually DO IT during the pages of the book… or am I wrong … no sign of the comet yet …
To be honest I’m just not sure how good a writer the guy is – hate the way he describes everyone and what they’re wearing, just so you know, e.g.: “But beneath his casually stylish, baggy earth-tone trousers, Logan...etc..” I mean, do I actually CARE that Logan’s trousers are ‘casually’ stylish rather than ‘formally’ stylish??
Or here’s another one: “In a black ensemble of turtle neck sweater and vest and form fitting slacks and boots, the petite, shapely killing machine that was Max …etc..”
We all know that Max pretty much wears the same thing and, ok, if she’s wearing an evening gown then tell us, but otherwise – leave it the hell out cos it’s just so much flim-flam and somehow detracts from the books good qualities!!
Think there are some fanfic writers on this site that might have done it better … sometimes the characters don’t really sound like themselves and then they sorta snap back into it … to sum up – it ain’t great but I’m reading it to find out what happens anyhow …
Have you read it? What did you think??
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Funny, your take on Collins' writing is spot on, it made me realize something; I don't take much note of bad or ho-hum writing, I read books like scripts- the story structure is more important to me. I will notice particularly good writing if I read it , though.
I thought he structured his story well, but although he did his reasearch, he's too obviously not a fan, or the book's last quarter wouldn't be so rushed. And the way he approaches the cult is laughable at the end. But it was worth a read, I guess.
I actually like the short capsule ending I wrote on the other thread better for dramatic reasons. But I should have included Lydecker somehow, and I left out the whole Max's genes saving the world thing...
Maybe I should flesh it out Chrisisall
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Here's a link to an interesting little story on another site. It's very short and worth a look, I think. And it's just one of many, there's a LOT of ones about Max and Logan doin' the nasty, post virus. But I haven't read too many of those, in truth, most of the fanfic I've read isn't too good.
Enjoy this one, though.
http://www.darkangelfan.com/fanfic/manticore/SanctuaryLost_Shoe.shtml
Thinks he knows good writing, hmmph Chrisisall
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Thanks Chrisisall - I shall read the link.. Have read a few stories on that site actually (I go to it to read the scripts mostly) but you're right - a lot of them ARE about Max and Logan doing the nasty and, whilst they may be spot on gynaecologically speaking, thy often don't anywhere near an accurate representation of the real characters!!
I think I tend to think about the writing a bit TOO much ...
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Just got Serenity #2, are you gettin' them there?
I wish they'd make a DA comic...
Oh, and I just read a fanfic at that site, from the 'Penthouse', whoah, HOT...puts 'em in a whole different light!!!
Comic Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
He was her emotional and psychological equal. Two broken people in a broken world. Maybe they could fix each other...
No comics here as far as I know yet, CisAll, wish to God there were – a lot harder to get hold of than books!! Are they worth the attempt?
I was however one of the lucky few to get tickets to the London Serenity screening in 2 weeks time so am very VERY over excited!!
And I KNOW! I read a few “penthouse” fanfics but frankly they made me feel a bit sick and pervy!!!
What I was really gonna comment on was, as per the above quote, I think you really are channelling Alec … I watched Borrowed Time again last night (fast forwarding through the monster bits) and was struck by how your comment echoed Alec’s to Asha… something along the lines of Logan is a repressed WASP and Max is a broken toy – but where you optimistically say “perhaps they can fix each other”, Alec’s clearly more of a realist: “The two of them will never work out together”…
I am, of course, with Alec all the way ...really do think, if Max and Logan were in no kind of peril and actually had to LIVE with each other, they'd get bored pretty damn quickly (see as comparison their real life counterparts)
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Quote:lol, that's good.
Originally posted by Zoot:
(see as comparison their real life counterparts)
I've never been one to let reality intrude on a good fictional romance!
But, hard times change people. I'd like to think Max will someday end up like her knockoff - happy.
And the comics are really good, worth tracking down or ordering online, just don't pay a LOT for them, they'll no doubt be reprinted after the BDM premiers!
And in MY world, Alec and (gulp) Cindy end up together (kind of a reverse-Willow thing).
" The all-girl team jus' don't have a player like Alec on it, he fine...."
Off the wall Chrisisall
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Alec and Original C! – I think you may have a problem with your brain being missing… If anything reckon Alec might be protesting about his sexuality too much…
How does Alec and Logan sound? All that aggression and tension between them could just be repressed feelings of sexual attraction – poor Max!
Alternative ending:
Max and Logan find cure for virus but during their first (and ultimately last) sexual adventure, Logan finds himself repulsed by Max’s womanly bits and cannot explain the flashing images of Alec that appear in his skull… Terrified, he distances himself from Max who is devastated and decides her lack of social and sexual skills have driven Logan away. She goes on to found the first transgenic nunnery for transgenics disappointed in love…
Series 3 then focuses on the barriers stopping Logan and Alec from realising their full passion for each other – I’m thinking angst over upsetting Max (lasting for all of 2 episodes – they are men, after all) followed by some kind of similar anti-Logan virus type situ … culminating in a passionate kiss in the middle of the last episode, after which it can be at the discretion of the director which one of them gets shot and killed, leaving the other to mourn hysterically for his lost soul-mate …
BTW went to see The Island last night with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson (they’re in it, you understand, I didn’t go to the movie theatre with them) … Very good film, but unless I’m wrong it was set in 2019… Does everything futuristic which also makes a good story occur in the same future year???
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