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Harry Potter and the HBP (Spoilers)

POSTED BY: airylli
UPDATED: Friday, September 2, 2005 08:21
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FAY

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:06 AM

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- Snape and Dumbledore are overheard arguing about something that Snape doesn't want to do (ie. what he ends up doing).
- Dumbledore's reaction to Snape turning is "Severus, please", not "Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!" or anything along the same vein as what he was saying to the other Death-eaters. He could equally be asking Snape to do what they'd agreed to (ie. what he did).
- Dumbledore finally lets Snape have the DADA job, despite knowing that whoever holds that position won't stay longer than a year, suggesting he knows something major was going to happen involving Snape.
- As Snape is running away after doing what he did, his 'taunts' to Harry are actually some pretty damn good advice about what he should be working on as far as magic.
- This one's pretty sketchy, but there's also Snape's hand shaking as he makes the Unbreakable Vow.

-amygdala

You are making good points.I realy agree with you and I would like to add that I think the reason Dumbledore trusts Snape so much is becasue Snape made the unbreakable vow with the head master to protect Harry. Snape could have killed Harry or taken him with them so Voldermort would kill him. Instead he just gave him his last lesson to practise saying spells siletly.

Another thing that keeps poping up is that I don't belive that Dumbledore is gone. He was connected to the Phonex and I belive that he will make a comback in one way or another.

Anna

FAY

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:11 AM

Fray101 I don't belive that Snape is evil. I think he has a good reason for killing Dumbledore. My theory is that he and Dumbledore made the unbreakable vow for Snape to proteckt Harry no matter what. Even if that means killing the head master. I mean there has to be a huge reason for Dumbledore to trust Snape as much as he did. And we all know that Dumbledore knows more than anyone.

Anna

EMMA

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:25 AM

couldn't agree more

My other half finished HP6 yesterday and was saying exactly the same things even though he isn't really 'into' the whole analysis and discussion of books.

extremely dimensionally transcendental

PSYCHICRIVER

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by fray101:
Overall I thought it was a marked improvement on the last novel - although have to admit I kept thinking "this is going to be a nasty film!". However it struck me last night how disappointing it was that Ron & Hermione were so busy sulking or snogging that they made no contributions whatsoever to the main plot - where was the teamwork that helped them so much in the past?

...

I just wish I'd reread Book 5 first as I'd forgotten so many details - guess I'll go read it now!

Couldn't agree with these points more!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."

"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

BARTO

Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:04 AM

regulus couldnt still be alive or harry couldnt have inherited Kreacher or Number 12 Grimauld Place...
the wise words of barto the great

OURMRREYNOLDS

Friday, September 2, 2005 7:07 AM

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The only way he could Obi-Wan it is as a ghost, which doesn't seem likely. Dead is dead in HP-Land. Dead is dead? Are you forgetting the ghosts each house has? And Peeves? And the ghost party Harry & co. went to in the earlier book? I think DD as a ghost is unlikely for literary reasons but there is no reason to assume dead is forever in HP.

I am planning on growing a big black moustache. I'm a traditionalist.

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MURMURER

Friday, September 2, 2005 8:21 AM

If Dumbledore is alive in any way, he can no longer function as the all-seeing mentor. The mentor must die, Harry must face Voldemort without his father-figure. Frankly, I'll be disappointed if Dumbledore comes back - as much as I loved him as a character, bringing him back at all would only undermine the impact of his death.

Fay's speculation about Fawkes is interesting, though. I'm sure Rowling knew that Dumbledore would die from the beginning, and her decision to make his pet a phoenix seems much more poignant with that in mind.

Dru's theory is also interesting. But I'd attributed Dumbledore's weakness to his ordeal in the cave.

I second Emma's theory: the reason Snape hates Harry is the same reason Dumbledore trusts him - Snape loved Lily. In book 5 he calls her a mudblood (to cover his real feelings of embarrassment), but we've discovered that he is a 'half-blood' himself. Lily died to save Harry, and Snape resents him for that. However, he hates Voldemort much, much more, and Dumbledore knows he'll never return to Voldemort's side. Dumbledore died to secure Snape a place in Voldemort's inner circle.

My prediction: Hermione's next to die. If you think Dumbledore's death hurt, just wait. No more meek, hapless Ron - her death will transform him completely. If she doesn't die, she'll at the very least be terribly hurt and incapacitated for much of the book.

As for some of the other theories - the Dursleys don't have to die. Their protection ends on Harry's next birthday. The Neville/Luna idea makes sense to me. And I'm starting to think that Regulus Black and Harry the Hoarcrux are misleads.