JOSS NOT AT DRAGONCON?!?!?
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UPDATED: Thursday, August 4, 2005 04:19
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Quote:Well of course not. Joss does no wrong. The air he exhales is golden & the earth instantly grows roses wherever he walks. He couldn't possibly be at fault for any sort of mix-up or crossed wires, nor would he ever make up stories (because it's NOT what he does for a living) to cover up such mistakes. That he would of course never make. How dare I even suggest such a thing. Shame on me.
Joss gets no blame for this
Quote:I think it is so incredibly cool that you know Joss' itinerary! How does one get their hands on such priveledged information?
he's not even in DC that weekend
OH!! You must work as Joss' personal assistant/spokesperson AND for Dragon*Con's guest booking department! It must be difficult having all that responsibility.
And Dragon*Con is in Atlanta, Georgia. Not DC.
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Joss gets no blame for this
Well of course not. Joss does no wrong. The air he exhales is golden & the earth instantly grows roses wherever he walks. He couldn't possibly be at fault for any sort of mix-up or crossed wires, nor would he ever make up stories (because it's NOT what he does for a living) to cover up such mistakes. That he would of course never make. How dare I even suggest such a thing. Shame on me.
Although I like sarcasm, I don't like it when done badly.
Look, I'm not saying Joss can do no wrong. This is the guy who wrote "Family". He can get worked up, and take control a little too much.
In this situation, I don't believe this is Joss's fault.
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he's not even in DC that weekend
I think it is so incredibly cool that you know Joss' itinerary! How does one get their hands on such priveledged information?
He said so.
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Quote:I'm sorry my attempt at sarcasm didn't please you. I'll certainly try to do better next time.
Although I like sarcasm, I don't like it when done badly.
I guess everyone's entitled to their own uneducated opinion. Without knowing him personally or having all the facts we will never know for sure. But I do know the webmaster of Dragon*Con's website, who also runs the Daily Dragon (their official publication, when the con is running) & also runs the film track & has (or had?) confirmed Joss for a panel in his track. He'll straighten things out for me, I'm sure of it.
ANYWAY, we'll see when we hear it from his mouth. Even then I'm not sure I'll believe him, not that it's worth anything if I don't.
Quote:Like I said, golden.
He said so.
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I'm not going to have a 'How connected are we?' contest here.
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Quote:Well good. That was not my intention at all. I'm just saying that I have the means to educate myself with some actual facts before getting all bent out of shape.
I'm not going to have a 'How connected are we?' contest here.
And how difficult is it to believe that Joss simply changed his mind about attending this convention & to avoid making his fan base angry at him, he's played the innocent card to place the blame on Dragon*Con instead of himself?
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And how difficult is it to believe that Joss simply changed his mind about attending this convention & to avoid making his fan base angry at him, he's played the innocent card to place the blame on Dragon*Con instead of himself?
Well for one thing, if Dragon*Con had him under contract, he wouldn't be able to change his mind like that.
Whatever the case, suggesting it's purely Dragon*Con's fault may be wrong, but suggesting Joss can't be arsed: also may be wrong.
Reality, it isn't massively important. We all know this.
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Quote:This is not true at all. The guests that attend THIS particular convention are not getting paid for their time, therefore the money they make is coming from autographs, photos taken with fans & memorabilia. They may sign an agreement with D*C, but they can easily pull out. As I remember, at least 2 guests cancelled last minute last year (as I stated in my original post.) If D*C were paying them for their time, I'm sure there would have to be some contractural agreement in place to assure they didn't lose any money when people just up & decide they don't want to, or can't for whatever reason, be there.
Well for one thing, if Dragon*Con had him under contract, he wouldn't be able to change his mind like that.
Also, Adam Baldwin was scheduled for the entire convention last year & left after the first day, as something unexpectedly came up (they changed filming dates on a movie he was filming overseas or something like that. Regardless he left.) So they apparently can just come & go as they please.
Quote:I wholeheartedly concur with this statement.
Whatever the case, suggesting it's purely Dragon*Con's fault may be wrong, but suggesting Joss can't be arsed: also may be wrong.
Quote:With this, I also concur.
Reality, it isn't massively important.
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It's pretty common at Cons for guests to have to bow out for one reason or another, so I'm guessing contracts allow for a guest to not come. Adam Baldwin had to leave early last year, simply because he got a job and had to go work.
I've been to DragonCon 5 years now, and they don't need to lie to get a crowd. The Con was almost too big for itself the last two years, so adding a bunch of pissed off people who are there to see a guest who "wasn't ever coming" is highly unlikely.
Joss is currently listed by the Buffy Trak as doing a panel at 1 pm on Monday. The people who do the schedules for the specific traks don't just make them up. They have to actually talk to the guests (or in the case of someone like Joss, probably an agent or manager) to work their panels into the guests' desired schedule. My guess is that it would be tough for the people that run the Buffy trak to get confirmation from Joss (or his people) about a 1 pm panel if he was never actually coming.
I don't know anyone associated with Whedon web sites, nor do I know anyone associated with DragonCon. But I do know my own experiences with going to this specific Con, and Joss being listed as a "confirmed" guest without actually being confirmed would be highly abnormal for DragonCon. I'm also guessing that sometime Monday or Tuesday we'll get official word from DragonCon.
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From Joss:
Hi boys and girls. I'm not going to Dragoncon. As far as I know, I was never ASKED to go to Dragoncon. I didn't even know when or where it was. I have nothing against Dragoncon per se (unless actual dragons are there, which would be scary and dangerous) (and "acchio Firebolt" doesn't really work for just anyone) but I have other plans. I don't know about the actors -- I assume the ones listed are actually going and I'll make sure we confirm that. Sorry for the confusification but it is not of my making.
Gotta fly, peeps. But not to Atlanta. -j.
(The Edinburgh thing is true though.)
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On t'interweb;
http://whedonesque.com/comments/7410#75614
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