Firefly Music Videos - Download Now
POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Thursday, December 4, 2003 00:31
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Nia, you should be ashamed. Thousands of people won't learn about Firefly because of you.
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How you ever got the impression I was male or female is beyond me.
I'm sorry that you cannot understand what I've been talking to you about all night on these boards.
Let me try to sum this up in tiny little words for you:
If you like watching songvids, don't do anything with them without the vidder's permission. Otherwise all of the vidders will stop making songvids, or stop sharing them where the public can see them. Either way, the Firefly fan community cannot enjoy the songvids. These same common courtesy issues are true for drawings and photomanipulations and fanfiction.
I'm sorry for using some three-syllable words in there; I couldn't think of any simpler way to put it.
How many different ways do I have to explain this before you understand me? Or are you just going to insult my intelligence, my sex life, or my weight again? You're the one that brought Jesus into this, and that whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thing also seems to be beyond your comprehension.
Elke
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You really don't make any sense. Nia's the one who made the vid in the first place.
Have you made any songvids? No? Then it's your own fault that you don't have any songvids of your own to share.
And currently? I feel pretty safe in saying that hundreds of Firefly fans are currently aware of your inconsiderate behavior, and are ashamed for their fandom.
And before you insult me for being "friends" with Nia, let me say that I met her online via email on *Thursday*, which was about a day and a half ago.
Elke
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"If you like watching songvids, don't do anything with them without the vidder's permission."
I like watching Firefly. It's a show created by Joss Whedon. Fox produced it, and they shouldn't have cancelled it.
The fat chicks waving twinkies don't interest me. I want Firefly back on the air.
Fans who had fun with the footage had fun expressing themselves. Bottom line. No one will get into trouble, unless the fans try to control the distribution of their bootlegged material.
We want more Firefly fans. We want a lot more of them. We are cool people and we don't steal and act like hypocrites, do we? No, we share. We give.
You can ignore all the fat girls waving Twinkies.
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> No one will get into trouble
Have you read a single post that I have made here YOU ARE WRONG. There is the potential for all sorts of legal action, both by the copyright/trademark holders of Firefly and of the music used in the vids. Have you ever heard of the RIAA? Their website is http://www.riaa.org/ and they're really energetic and nasty when it comes to cracking down on the use of music, even if FOX and the rest of the Firefly powers that be might be willing to overlook things.
Just because someone else enjoys the same show as you does not mean that you understand their motivations in creating songvids or any other form of fan art.
And you are still sidestepping the issue of asking for something a fan created which you want to use to promote your show.
Meanwhile, you're content to insult people and call them names. I've seldom seen such irrationality and immaturity.
Are you this inconsiderate in real life, or only on the Internet?
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"Just because someone else enjoys the same show as you does not mean that you understand their motivations in creating songvids or any other form of fan art."
Then this artist should not have posted anonymous artwork for all the web to share. Nia provided no hint of her motives, she just offered the video to download. Others began sharing it, because they love Firefly.
The only problem occurs when the fan tries to control the distribution of the stolen material. Then a little thing called cash starts to matter to people in suits with badges.
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"I never thought I would see the day when a Browncoat blows the whistle on another Browncoat for posting Pro-Firefly material.
Shame on you, Nia! Shame on all of you!"
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You have managed to completely miss every point I have made, and every point which other rational people have made.
I am amazed by your continued ignorance of both facts and common courtesy.
Elke
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You have successfully denied me a way to increase the number of Firefly fans.
Way to go, all you fat chicks with Twinkies.
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You yourself have made it clear to every vidder in fandom what will happen if they make their vids publically available. What is unclear about that?
And lay off the insults, Succatash. I've noticed that every single posting interface on this site says "While we have an open policy concerning messages, please be civil when responding to others." Can you read?
Elke
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