Firefly Music Videos - Download Now
POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Thursday, December 4, 2003 00:31
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I've just been surfing all of the message boards here regarding the fan-made Firefly songvids.
Ah, I see now. All of us Browncoats need to stick together, because the wishes of the people who actually put the work into the vids doesn't mean a darned thing. Because they didn't create the show we all love.
The prospect of lawyers getting involved means nothing, because it's too important for people like Maniac and Succotash to be able to see and pass around anything they darned well please... honor among thieves doesn't mean much, and obviously comparing the entire Firefly fan community to thieves doesn't contradict the concept of Browncoats standing together.
It's all clear now.
For reference on why unauthorized redistribution of fannish songvids is a bad thing, please check out the following link. You know, if you'd rather be a Browncoat than a thief.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/elke_tanzer/148366.html
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Posted by elketanzer:
All of us Browncoats need to stick together...
Don't fret. We do stick together. Got to have some disagreements and arguments other wise what would we be? Just a bunch of people sitting around nodding in agreement toward everyone else no matter what was said? We’re not like that.
We've all got our opinions, and we all like to voice them. Hey, even our sweet Kaylee got made at her Captain, but they made up in the end didn't they? She even got a dress. I say let them argue-- maybe someone will get a layered cake from this little quarrel.
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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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Kaythryn, you are kind and gentle and wise. I could learn a lot from you.
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Ummm ... I've been reading this, and I have to say, I'm a bit--well, more than a bit--shocked.
I haven't followed all the threads around this--sounds like this is being discussed at some length elsewhere--but I have read this thread, and to me it seems simple enough.
Authors of fan work--fic, vids, art--still have some rights, even if they are only accorded those rights from the other fans that appreciate their work and their efforts. I mean, I love reading fic, watching the vids, scrolling through the cool artwork. I therefore give some deference to the creators of that work--who let me read/view it for free, and because they just want to share. I am not so spoiled as to think I am entitled to them sharing it with me.
This includes when someone puts something up on his/her site and the author/artist asks politely for them to please take it down--for whatever reason--I assume that this is respected. I assume that when I download something from a site, that the author is ok with that. Sure, it can't be enforced, but it seems--well, wrong--to know I've taken something when the author who's work I'm enjoying is adamantly against that distribution.
I mean, misunderstandings happen, and even in cases where an author gave permission to the archivist and later changed his/her mind--the same principle should still apply. And, honestly, most fandoms I think work on this premise, which is why people bother distributing their fanworks on the net--or else why wouldn't they just distribute it privately, or go play in another fandom that treated them better? For the archivist to simply say they didn't care--well, I had always just assumed basic rules of courtesy still applied between ourselves--especially in this fandom, where our clarion cry has been how badly we've been screwed by the Powers That Be.
Either that, or I am completely deluded.
Phil.
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Thank you, Phil. That's exactly the point.
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My website just busted - too much traffic.
A ton of people must have downloaded those files.
Gosh. I'll try to get it fixed.
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As glad as I would be to be such a popular gal, which would make me kinda like Jesus, it could also be your website is down because of, you know, the complaints people have been sending to your ISP for violating their Terms of Service. That's not a bandwidth notice there, I've seen those. That's an empty directory.
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I never thought I would see the day when a Browncoat blows the whistle on another Browncoat for posting Pro-Firefly material.
Shame on you, Nia! Shame on all of you!
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Oh, yes, Succatash. Get all confrontational after refusing the simple requests of the creative fan concerning her own work. And then get holier-than-thou when you violate the TOS of your own service provider and *anyone* calls 'em on it. Yes, it could have been anyone. A lot of people are aware of your unacceptable behavior at this point.
We're all True Fans, and Browncoats Must Stick Together, but only if it strokes your ego.
Gimme a break, pal.
How did such a great show attract such an inconsiderate irrational fan?
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The fact remains that a Browncoat was shut down by other Browncoats for posting Pro-Firefly material.
Unbelievable. Hypocritical. And very damaging to the cause of gathering more Firefly viewers.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!
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