Will 3 movies be enough for the Firefly faithful?
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UPDATED: Sunday, August 21, 2005 22:56
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Although the subject heading for this thread sounds like it came from the last 30 seconds of the 60's Batman TV show(awkward silence.....crickets), this is a very serious question. I have stated before that I don't think Firefly/Serenity will reach it's true zenith of popularity without another series. Television, straight to DVD, really anything would work.
When Firefly got cancelled, I was so angry it was just sad. How could I let myself care so much for a show you watch on the tv? I don't even like TV that much. Then I figured it out.
a. It's Whedon, that's why I was so into it
b. Fox cancelled Firefly before Whedon got to tell his story. Imagine your 3 years old, and someone is telling you the story of the 3 little pigs for the first time. The Wolf blows down the first 2 houses, the pigs are running for their lives and then the person telling you the story slams the book shut. That's how I felt with the cancellation.
If another series happens, most likely it won't get cancelled, and we can see where Whedon was going with these great characters once and for all.
So will you be content with 3 movies, or do you want Serenity to be the springboard for a new series?
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b. Fox cancelled Firefly before Whedon got to tell his story. Imagine your 3 years old, and someone is telling you the story of the 3 little pigs for the first time. The Wolf blows down the first 2 houses, the pigs are running for their lives and then the person telling you the story slams the book shut. That's how I felt with the cancellation.
I think thats a big reason why firefly holds such an alore for us. Like an artists work is never truly appreciated until after their dead and you ain't gettin' any more. That and its a fantastic story.
I hope they restart the series as Joss was obviously developing a deep and engaging storyline underpining everything. Maybe even something on the level of Babylon5 where tiny events, or a single sentence comes back to have significance much later on because it was all thoughtout before hand. I'd really like to see this develop, as long as firefly ends before it gets 'old and tired'.
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I think thats a big reason why firefly holds such an alore for us. Like an artists work is never truly appreciated until after their dead and you ain't gettin' any more. That and its a fantastic story.
I hope they restart the series as Joss was obviously developing a deep and engaging storyline underpining everything. Maybe even something on the level of Babylon5 where tiny events, or a single sentence comes back to have significance much later on because it was all thoughtout before hand. I'd really like to see this develop, as long as firefly ends before it gets 'old and tired'.
First, to answer the question of the thread - it depends. Having seen SERENITY already in a screening ( don't hate me, please ) and assuming we're gonna get 2 more movies..., mabye Joss wouldn't mind finishing up the story in cinema format. That, and the fact that there are so many primary characters, seems extremely unlikely that most actors would be willing to commit that much time and effort into sticking w/ the same character beyond the movies. Perhaps some sort of a 'spin off' ? I dunno.
Speaking of cutting a story short, what about John Doe? I loved that show, and somehow it survived 'till the end of the 1st season. The CRUELEST thing to do, was cancel it on the series finale'.
you, FOX.! Yet despite my interest in JD from the start, NO show like Firefly has reeled me in to this extent. After all, it IS only t.v." They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I think that Fireflt should continue with movies. Joss gets more budget and can bring his story to life in ways that wouldn't be possible on TV. And we don't want another Star Trek thing on our hands. Firefly: The Next Generation anyone?
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Originally posted by TheReaver:
I think that Fireflt should continue with movies. Joss gets more budget and can bring his story to life in ways that wouldn't be possible on TV. And we don't want another Star Trek thing on our hands. Firefly: The Next Generation anyone?
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Firefly: The next generation NO NO NO NO
Firefly: Trading Post Nine uhuhuhuh
.Firefly: Voyuers, hmm, interesting...
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After seeing the movie on friday night - NO! I want to see more!
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No, movies will not be enough.
I believe that the series was just a taste of what Joss was going to give us. He was clearly setting up for something big, interesting, etc.
Now the movies may be a good way to pull off the grandness (?) of his idea in a grand way. BUT, I think that a continuation would be preferable (IMO) on TV once F*X's ownership runs out (10 years, yes?).
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No. Not nearly. If a lame-ass show like Andromeda can limp along for five progressively bad seasons, why should something of shiny quality die before its time? Think of it from the actors perspective: Steady work for a few years (every actor's dream), regular big screen projects, and the chance to direct. Someone once asked Michael Dorn if he worried about getting typecast as Worf like the actors on the original series. He said, essentially, "Are you kidding? Look at those guys! Three years of steady work, then seven major movies in a row? What actor wouldn't like that?"
Keep pushing, people. Movies are great, but the Firefly story was only in the very beginning of the first act. Even if Serenity is the greatest movie EVER, you couldn't tell the kind of story we had coming in a dozen movies. Joss' shows are heavily character driven, and that's something you need a real story arc to accomplish.
Keep the pressure on. Buy Firefly merchandise a DVDs for all your friends. Write hand-written, 2 page letters to every executive in every company associated with the show and the movie. Let them know that you are more willing to plunk down your dollars for this magnificent piece of work than all their other crap combined. If they smell $$$, they'll come running. And insist Joss gets total creative control, a decent timeslot, a pile of cash, and Hungarian hookers in his trailer if he wants. Write several movies into the deal, and give it a 3 year garunteed contract. Everyone wins. Don't sign petitions (everyone's immune to that), don't send email (spammed out), but a snail mail, hand addressed and hand written 2 pager has the impact of a small hand grenade. A few thousand of them -- to everyone involved -- and they'll take notice.
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Originally posted by ScrewtheAlliance:
Keep pushing, people. Movies are great, but the Firefly story was only in the very beginning of the first act. Even if Serenity is the greatest movie EVER, you couldn't tell the kind of story we had coming in a dozen movies. Joss' shows are heavily character driven, and that's something you need a real story arc to accomplish.
Keep the pressure on. Buy Firefly merchandise a DVDs for all your friends. Write hand-written, 2 page letters to every executive in every company associated with the show and the movie. Let them know that you are more willing to plunk down your dollars for this magnificent piece of work than all their other crap combined. If they smell $$$, they'll come running. And insist Joss gets total creative control, a decent timeslot, a pile of cash, and Hungarian hookers in his trailer if he wants. Write several movies into the deal, and give it a 3 year garunteed contract. Everyone wins. Don't sign petitions (everyone's immune to that), don't send email (spammed out), but a snail mail, hand addressed and hand written 2 pager has the impact of a small hand grenade. A few thousand of them -- to everyone involved -- and they'll take notice.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's the weirdest thing, When it was announced that Serenity got the greenlight, I was so very happy. Now as the movie draws near, I want in the worst way for it to return as a series. The biggest thing I think we have to worry about now is not Fox's contract on Firefly, because Universal would gladly buy out of that contract for a new series after the movie goes stellar. The biggest obstacle I can think of would be Whedon himself. With Wonder Woman, and all his other projects, I don't know if he'd have the time and energy for going back to a new series. I just hope he realizes how passionate we fans are. The main thing we want above all is a new series.
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