If you love Firefly, best you check out Dark Angel, another Fox victim.

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MALICIOUS

Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:42 PM

I do! I do! I remember John Doe! It was on Friday nights right after Firefly!

The even realer (?) question is who remembers the series Matthew Fox was in around the same time? (Hint: He saw dead people)

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

AURAPTOR

Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yes, Max is different than Buffy, but great in her own way. If you haven't already done so, well, make it so's you have.

Quality show promotin' Chrisisall

I was a big fan of Dark Angel, for obvious reasons - Jessica Alba. Season 1 was far better than season 2, imo. Still, I think it could have made a come back had season 3 ever come to pass.

I have the XBox 'Dark Angel' game. The main reason I keep it is just to hear Max's comments as she's kicking some bad guy's ass. Great stuff!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

FANTASTICLAUGHINGFAIRY

Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:36 PM

You're all being VERY negative here!
I can't believe it - some enthusiasm PLEASE!
IT'S AN AMAZING SHOW! You have to give it a chance!
Seriously, I'm not kidding, I prefer it to Buffy 99% of the time, and NO, IT IS NOT A RIP-OFF. Just because it has a girl that kicks-ass, does not make it a cheap rip-off! Harrumph.
If you want to see why I love it so much - check out the 'You can ignore this one too' thread, I have a HUGE list of things there. Seriously. I got a bit carried away.

No seriously though, give it a chance.

Slightly peeved FLF.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by IndianaBanzai:
Some off-the-wall space western, right? I think I remember watching a good number of episodes of that show, anyone know what happened to it?

I think they edited a bunch of episodes into a movie or something, I saw a trailer...it's called Sanctity or somethin'.

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:30 PM

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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
Bad dialog, bad acting, bad plots, I can't understand it.
Can someone please explain the love because I just don't get it?

The dialogue was filled with current and projected hip-hop street lingo, so if you couldn't make sense of it, then yeah, it would seem to suck.
The actors, especially John Savage, were all giving top notch, movie quality performances, I don't know what you could be referring to.
The plots were very character-driven and usually highly emotional, so if you missed episodes I can understand your mistaking them for bad.

The only real criticism you can make is in the abrupt shift from small stories in the first season to larger and more 'creature' oriented stories in the second, it was a little jarring. But Buffy fans should be used to that, right?

Now that you don't have a leg to stand on, slap in the pilot and enjoy.

Explainin' it nice Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:39 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Cameron changed just enough to make it original, but used the same dynamics.

Well, let'see...
They were both female,and no other show than Buffy should star a female?
They both didn't like thier jobs?
Oh, only Buffy should be a skilled fighter? (goodbye Xena, Lara Croft, Bond girls)

Exactly what dynamics do you mean?

Dark Advocate Chrisisall

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:36 PM

Gonna go back and foolishly try and clarify my points.

It's not that I couldn't make sense of the lingo, but that it wasn't in any way interesting or clever but the characters seemed to think it was.

I'll agree that John Savage put in a great performance as Lydecker but the rest of the cast? It could just be that there wasn't much in the scripts to work with but Jessica Alba seems to think pouting was an acting style. Me? Not so much.
Gotta disagree on the plots (though I will admit that I haven't seen all the episodes yet). Every time they setup something interesting or challenging they seem to lose faith in it and hit the reset switch.

I will admit to liking some of the episodes, as previously stated the smaller episodes that just deal with the jam pony guys are pretty good, but the others bore me to tears. It took me two goes just to get through the pilot! It's not a bad show by any means, but a good one, one that stands up to the quality of the likes of Firefly or The Sopranos or early West Wing? Nowhere near.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
It's not a bad show by any means, but a good one, one that stands up to the quality of the likes of Firefly or The Sopranos or early West Wing? Nowhere near.

What? Firefly has all this phoney western talk with horses in space! The plots suck, 'cause they always try to copy Star Trek's 'moral message by the captain' ending. The actors all seem to be joking around all the time, as if they're not takin' anything seriously. And the camera seems to be held by a terrifying space monkey!!!

See, I can miss the point of a show, too.
Just thankfull in Firefly's case that I didn't.

Give DA more of a chance, it'll grow on ya Chrisisall
Edited to add: At the heart of the show is the romance between Max and Logan; If you're not a romantic-type person, I can see how this show would miss it's mark with you. It's basically a love story. *wipes a tear from the corner of his eye*

PATSRULE

Friday, July 22, 2005 2:24 PM

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It's not a bad show by any means, but a good one, one that stands up to the quality of the likes of Firefly or The Sopranos or early West Wing? Nowhere near.

If you took away the word Westwing, and replaced it with 24, you would have had my exact sentiments about Dark Angel's first season. The second season was lame.

ZOOT

Friday, July 22, 2005 3:59 PM

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Originally posted by fantasticlaughingfairy:
You're all being VERY negative here!
I can't believe it - some enthusiasm PLEASE!
IT'S AN AMAZING SHOW! You have to give it a chance!
Seriously, I'm not kidding, I prefer it to Buffy 99% of the time, and NO, IT IS NOT A RIP-OFF. Just because it has a girl that kicks-ass, does not make it a cheap rip-off! Harrumph.
If you want to see why I love it so much - check out the 'You can ignore this one too' thread, I have a HUGE list of things there. Seriously. I got a bit carried away.

No seriously though, give it a chance.

Slightly peeved FLF.

OK FLF, just for you, here is some enthusiasm - I started off hating DA and criticising it on much the same terms as the other posters on this thread … But … on second viewing I decided I liked it much, much MORE and got lots of things out of it that I didn’t first time around – now I’m almost as obsessed with it as I am Firefly, West Wing and Sports Night and I watch it more than Buffy – probably ‘cos over the years I’ve watched the Bufster many, many times!!

Everyone slates season 2 and I agree, taken as a whole it’s not as cohesive and the random trans-humans get annoying – but I adore season 2, I really do!! AND why?? Because of Alec … The character that injects a slightly cooler-than-Xander-esque wit into a show that otherwise has a tendency to take itself a little too seriously (or maybe its just the characters that do that) … The Alec focused episodes – even when he’s wigging out and going cuckoo are superb!!
Oh and by the way:

Heh heh heh! Zoot laughs like the evil genius she is …

FLF, Just got R1 DA Season and 2 for a very reasonable price on ebay…. I let two other poor saps slug it out bidding against each other and then – with 30 seconds to spare I nipped in and trumped them, I feel unbelievable powerful, with a slight aftertaste of guilt …

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