'The Inside' on CNN

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BIKISDAD

Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:15 PM

Well, you've just proven that you weren't even paying attention to the show at all. The two episodes they showed just yesterday completely contradict EVERYTHING you just said about this being a "formula" show, etc. - especially the second one, where they turned the whole show on its head, but obviously you weren't paying attention.

Please enjoy "American Dancing Idol", or whatever it's called. You've earned it.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

G1223

Thursday, July 7, 2005 3:54 PM

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Originally posted by bikisdad:

Please enjoy "American Dancing Idol", or whatever it's called. You've earned it.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

I was not watching it at all. Basically you want The Inside and the reality is that it had some good elements but the flaws piled up. So please stop placing blame on the browncoats for not watching a show they felt was not worth the time.

You have tried to place the blame on folks around here for a show failing that because it's flaws killed it.

TANSTAAFL

BIKISDAD

Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:03 PM

Huh, you just admitted that you weren't even watching it. Well, that was already obvious from what you listed as the show's "flaws", which you were proved wrong about by last night's episodes - except that you weren't watching it to find out that you were wrong. You just proved my point. Thanks.

Now, go watch your little dancing show. I'm sure you'll enjoy that a lot more than TI.

EDIT: Oh, and while I also like House, talk about a show that IS formula - every episode is exactly the same. And you say you "watched" Firefly. How come you just showed up here recently then, and not back when the show was being broadcast - maybe because you weren't actually watching Firefly either, when it originally was on tv?

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

JADEHAND

Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:14 PM

Hey,
It sucks that The Inside is getting FOXed, but really no use complaining about it at this point. I loved the show. I saw the depth of the characters beyond what was shown, unlike some of my friends. I saw Rebeacca as damaged and trying desperately to survive, a friend saw "a cold bi*ch" *shrugs* Not every show will appeal to everyone. I don't get some of the other shows that people rave about here, but we all "got" Firefly. Let's not have Fox putting a wedge 'tween us. You know I'll miss it too. DVD me. I agree smart TV is rare, and the more it's ignored the less we'll get. I would have watched TI even if I didn't get it, in hopes in would lead to more shows from the great writers who brought it to us.

Visit WWW.Marillion.Com for a better way to live
Visit www.TheInside.org and see Tim Minear's show Weds. 9:00pm EST.....ah FUX nevermind.

BIKISDAD

Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by Jadehand:
Hey,
I agree smart TV is rare, and the more it's ignored the less we'll get. I would have watched TI even if I didn't get it, in hopes it would lead to more shows from the great writers who brought it to us.

Thanks, Jadehand. This is exactly the point I was originally trying to make to G1223 (see my long-winded post, above) - Apparently, I didn't do a very good job of it.

The fact that yet another intelligent show by our Browncoat writers has been cancelled makes it that much less likely that we'll ever get anything else from them on tv again. THAT is why it was so important for all Browncoats to support the show. Well, too late now. Instead, we're just going to get more reality garbage.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

LADYSILVER

Thursday, July 7, 2005 5:34 PM

For me, The Inside started out pretty slow (and not very good). I missed a lot of the first ep because of storm coverage by the local station and the storm messing with the feed from F*X. The 2nd and 3rd eps weren't very good. I was disappointed and bored, to say the least, and I almost gave up up on it. However, I decided to stick it out. A good decision on my part (why couldn't the F*X suits have made the same decision?!). The last three eps have been very good - the dialogue and plots improving, the emotions getting stronger, and of course, more for Kate and Adam to do! And the twist in last night's second ep had me sitting there with my jaw on the floor. And I'm a fan of Peter Coyote, in whatever he's in - and I would have loved to learn all of Webb's back story. Good stuff. I'll buy the DVD set when and if it arrives. BTW, here's another vote against all that reality TV crap. Give me a good, scripted drama every time, and I'm one happy TV addict.

PATSRULE

Thursday, July 7, 2005 5:51 PM

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Originally posted by bikisdad:
EDIT: Oh, and while I also like House, talk about a show that IS formula - every episode is exactly the same. And you say you "watched" Firefly. How come you just showed up here recently then, and not back when the show was being broadcast - maybe because you weren't actually watching Firefly either, when it originally was on tv?

For the most part, I stay out of these things, but I think your argument is absolutely ridiculous.

First of all, no one would be here if they weren't a fan of Firefly. I don't know where you feel you get the right to throw that around, just because someone is new to the boards. You should be ashamed of yourself for that comment.

Personally, I am a huge fan of firefly, and I like The Inside (although I don't consider it great, and haven't watched last nights episodes yet...they are on my tivo), but I have no interest in Buffy or Angel, and I never saw Wonderfalls. Just because you are a fan of Firefly doesn't mean you have to be a fan of everything from the mutant enemy team. And not being a fan of everything mutant enemy does not mean you are endorsing celebrity dancing!

And finally, and most importantly, I am tired of seeing people who watch Dancing with the Stars or Fear Factor, or whatever being refered to as idiots (and no I don't watch either of those shows, so I wasn't taking anything personally). I do not equate someone as being smarter because they watch The Inside and dumber because they watch a dance show. That is completely insulting and elitist. It seems no matter what people are into on the internet, if they like it, it is smart, and people who don't like what they like are dumb.

I know I already said finally, but...The Inside getting cancelled is not the same as Firefly getting cancelled. The Inside has a sweet time slot, good hype, and a good opportunity to succeed. It hasn't connected with enough people to get a second season. Firefly (a MUCH better show imo) had a horrible time slot, was shown out of order, had no hype, and plenty of interruptions. In my mind, the cancelling of Firefly was as much of a tragedy as television programs getting cancelled too soon can be. The Inside, well, I would have preferred it to get renewed, but I am not losing any sleep over it.

Let my flaming begin.

SPIROGYRA

Thursday, July 7, 2005 6:16 PM

PATS, I completely agree with you.

I'm not angry at FOX for cancelling the show. Except they probably could've given it a bit more time to prove itself, which it really was doing.I thought the first episode was great, the second and third were eh, but these last two were absolutely amazing.

But the fact of it is that The Inside wasn't drawing in the audience that it needed. And that's it.

The cancellation of Firefly? That was truly fox's fault.

My show is too pretty to die.

When's The Inside: The Movie coming out, eh?

BIKISDAD

Thursday, July 7, 2005 8:18 PM

PATSRULE,

If you would read what I said carefully, you would note that I never said that G1223 isn't currently a fan of Firefly. I just called him on his implication that he had watched it when it originally aired on tv. So I called him on an insignificant little exaggeration (which you'll notice he didn't deny). How does that make me the bad guy? That's interesting reasoning on your part. Besides, that was the least interesting and important part of any post in this thread.

Read Jadehand's post above for the reason why all of you who didn't support TI should have. We had a show being made BY Browncoats (the top Browncoats, in fact) FOR Browncoats. Now we don't, and because of that, it's unlikely we'll ever get another one. I guess the concept of "loyalty" doesn't even bear mentioning. 'Nuff said. This is my last post on the subject, PERIOD. If you don't understand the gist of Jadehand's post, then I can't help you, so don't post back to me expecting an answer. You won't get it.

EDIT: Oh, and PATS, (I also am a big Tedy Bruschi fan - he went to my school. I hope he'll be OK to play next year), as to the comments about people who watch reality shows, I think the old expression, "You are what you eat.", applies equally well to what you feed your brain as it does to what you feed your body. Just my opinion, though.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

JADEHAND

Thursday, July 7, 2005 11:28 PM

Hey Patsrule,
I agree with your points, but I can see where Bikisdad is coming from. Fact is, I loved The Inside, Not as much as Firefly or Wonderfalls, But still. FOX made mistakes with TI but not nearly as many or as bad as Firefly, and it wasn't as horribly mistreated as Wonderfalls.

First let me recommend that you check out wonderfalls, It's beautiful. Then imagine getting 4 eps aired and it just vanishing. This happening again (few more eps aired, but close enough) is enough to make a fan of all three shows mad. Though I think the anger here is misdirected, I understand and share that anger. No fan of Firefly should be blamed for this, Just as I don't wish to be blamed for what happened to any other show.

Fans of Firefly don't immediately know about this site. I loved Firefly from the first airing of "The Train Job", but only joined here a bit more than a year ago, so I don't judge anyone based on their "membership date".

I understand that not everyone "got" The Inside. The first few episodes were more about the Characters positions in the dynamic than about the characters. Now the first few episodes made me think, made me laugh, made me gasp, but didn't really make me Feel. And that's important in connecting with a show. I could see that it would, and it did in these last three episodes. Firefly and Wonderfalls...Much sooner with the Feeling, more connection.

As for the smart show/person vs. dumb show/person arguement. I agree with you, but it's easy to see how people who like shows that engage the brain feel smarter than those who watch NASCAR(sorry, too easy) Kidding. I like Music that makes me think too, hence the Marillion, But I also completely enjoyed Jesus Jones. "Move me, Move Me. If you can't it's not worth a damn."

Stepping away from flamewar............

Visit WWW.Marillion.Com for a better way to live
Visit www.TheInside.org and see Tim Minear's show Weds. 9:00pm EST.....ah FUX nevermind.

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