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'The Inside' on CNN

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UPDATED: Friday, July 8, 2005 03:52
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Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:21 AM

A copycat heart stealer is causing questions in an old case (Agent Ryan's first with the FBI) which is being appealled. Heart wrenching story that digs into the character of Paul Ryan.



Kaylee: Wash, tell me I'm pretty
Wash: Were I unwed I would take you in a manly fashion
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 4:28 AM

Cardie,

The plot that TiVo is giving for next week's show doesn't look like it has anything to do with the previews we saw after tonight's second ep. But it's so generically worded that it's inconclusive.

TiVo says this week's two shows were 104 and 107 respectively, and that next week's is 108. So it seems that this week's second ep does lead to next week's.

The plot summary for the earlier one goes like this: the title is "The Lonliest Number" and TiVo says: The murders of callers to a sucide hotline prompt Rebecca to go under cover to investigate.

But there's some good stuff between the main characters that let us get to know them a little better--some dialogue and character touches (especially Adam's character) that remind us we're watching a show by someone from the Whedon family tree.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 5:04 AM

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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
Cardie,
But there's some good stuff between the main characters that let us get to know them a little better--some dialogue and character touches (especially Adam's character) that remind us we're watching a show by someone from the Whedon family tree.



There were other characters? I saw the shells of other characters with a mock up of "Insert Character here" as if they were waiting to come back and do this next season. And that outcome is just never good for a show.

TANSTAAFL

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 5:17 AM

Well, I hope all the people who thought this show "isn't really that good" and even the ones (there were some) who said "it's good F*X is cancelling it, because it's a bad show" are happy about their stupid, short-sighted lack of support for TI. Thanks to the lack of support by people who you'd think should have known better, we're losing another great show to more reality crap.

F*X made it absolutely clear tonight, in one of their commercials, that TI is being replaced in two weeks by their "wonderful" new reality dancing show.

If I sound bitter and resentful, it's only because I am. The ranks of "Browncoats" at this point should have been plenty large enough to... You know what? I'm not even going to continue. I'm too PO'd and I might possibly say things that I'd regret, so screw it.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 7:50 AM

Well, I said "a LITTLE better". I agree that first four eps they were just sort of...there. I thought there was the beginning of some development in "The Loneliest Number".

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 7:57 AM

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Originally posted by bikisdad:


If I sound bitter and resentful, it's only because I am. The ranks of "Browncoats" at this point should have been plenty large enough to... You know what? I'm not even going to continue. I'm too PO'd and I might possibly say things that I'd regret, so screw it.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.



What are we suppose to do? Watch something that was not good? That is what you are asking for. We all watched Firefly because it was good. This not a lack of will but a lack of concept work. And that is not Tim's fault. He was hired to come in and fix a mess and he almost pulled it off.

TANSTAAFL

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:08 AM

My friend and I watched the pilot episode and ADORED it. I said I wouldn't watch the second episode because it would be cancelled. My friend (who has never had a show she liked cancelled) said "Never! It's too good!" and I just smiled. We made a bet that it would be off the air in less then 8 episodes.

Sometimes I just hate being right.

::sigh:: Too bad I didn't keep my word and watched all the episodes. Now I'm going to miss it. :c(

Stupid Fox.

Liz
Nathan sat next to me.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 9:31 AM

They're canceling it already???!

Every stinkin' time I watch a good show on that stupid network for more than five minutes, they kill it.

hmm...

Maybe the reason 24 has lasted so long is because I have'nt watched a single episode.

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The real-life box droppin', man-ape gone wrong thing, now without the pesky falling boxes

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:47 PM

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Originally posted by G1223:

What are we suppose to do? Watch something that was not good? That is what you are asking for. We all watched Firefly because it was good.




No, G1223, I'm not asking you to watch something that was not good. I was asking why you weren't watching something that was excellent. It's not my fault you didn't understand the subtle humour and the complex character development that was going on in this show that made it ten times better than all the boring, cardboard procedural shows with personality free actors like CSI and L&O. Obvously, other people here did - read the post directly below yours, for example. Maybe if you (and others, obviously) hadn't just dismissed the show out of hand after it had barely started, but had listened to some of the Browncoats who did "get it" and kept watching, we could have kept it on the air and you might have eventually come to understand how TI was nothing like CSI, how it wasn't intended to be a CSI clone at all, and how hugely better it was than CSI, or any of the actual CSI clones.

See, G1223, the problem is there are zillions of stupid people out there in tv land who love to watch people eat worms for money and watch dancing celebrities and crap like that. That's why the networks are stuffed with those types of shows. The reason there are so few shows like Firefly, Wonderfalls, TI, etc. (and that they always get cancelled) is that the potential audience, even if you consider EVERYONE who might have the brainpower to understand and appreciate them, is very SMALL. That's why it is absolutely critical that, for those types of shows, EVERYONE who might be able to appreciate them MUST support them. Otherwise, ta-da - cancellation.

TI had the most talented cast and writing crew available in Hollywood. With the exception of Joss, it basically WAS Mutant Enemy - the same team that brought us Firefly, Buffy, and Angel. If you didn't understand TI at first, you could have at least listened to the other Browncoats here who did and just looked at the credits - these were the smartest writers in Hollywood. How could you think they were giving you a crappy show?

Well, now it's gone and it IS being replaced by a REALLY crappy show - the dancing version of 'American Idol". I know THAT will be successful for F*X because the mindless masses have already shown their appetite for that kind of crap. So thanks, G1223 (not just you, but everybody like you - people who had the intelligence to appreciate Firefly, but didn't have the patience to come to understand that TI was just as good, but in a different way), for not supporting TI, so we could end up with dancing reality crap instead.

I just wonder, will Tim and Jane and Ben, etc, EVER get another show on tv after their history of (in F*X's opinion) FAILURE? All they've done is produce "failed" shows on F*X - Firefly, Wonderfalls, TI. But really, did they fail, or did the audience fail them? You decide.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Thursday, July 7, 2005 2:07 PM

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Originally posted by bikisdad:



No, G1223, I'm not asking you to watch something that was not good. I was asking why you weren't watching something that was excellent.
Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.



I was it's called House. I was it's called Firefly. The Inside was going to be formula TV. The team outside of boss was formula. We have our lead who is always going to be in peril. I doubt she was never going to be not caught by the bad guy and have the face to face at the end of the drama of the episode.

Rather than use the other characters we only see Adam as the gun bunny who wanted to get into fire fights.We have the redhead who is..... Then the partner who is married (Only to defuse the office romance or somehow make it more forbidden) and lastly the boss who has a "Darker Plan"

And speaking of the partner For a new dad and being such a "Empath" why is he so free to do stakeouts with a wife who is nearly ready to have their first child.

This would have been an excuse to tie our little serial killer hunter to the other characters. Yet that was not happening.

So as to a Excellant show I think it can be said The Inside was not.

TANSTAAFL

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