'Inside Canceled' likely according to UBd post

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UPDATED: Thursday, July 7, 2005 07:37
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ZNACHKI

Monday, July 4, 2005 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I am anything but surprised.

They burned him on Firefly, he went back for more with Wonderfalls, and they burned him again.
And yet he went back for a third trip with The Inside, which had me just shakin my head from the get-go.

Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Tim must be a masochist, I suppose.
Sorry Tim, but please do yourself the favor of finding a better network to front your goods, one that might (here's a thought!) actually *appreciate* them.

It's not really Tim's doing. As I recall he had a three show deal with them - not at all uncommon. Let's hope that it indeed counts as number three so that he can get out from under F*X.

As for the good - well maybe he can finish The Moon's a Harsh Mistress, or work on the other project he's expressed an interest in. You know, that Serenity sequel.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 12:58 PM

Gorram it to the special Hell!!!

I guess I kind of knew this would happen, as much as I did not want it to be true.

Figures. You put a good quality show on the air, one that makes people think and has substance and sure as anything the execs won't get it. They are stuck in reality show mode and can't seem to recall a time before that offal they air now.

I will keep on watching right up to the last episdoe, and buy the DVD when it comes out. Too bad Fox can't pull their heads out of their butts long enough to know a good thing when they have it.

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BLACKDOVE

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 1:15 PM

With all due respect to Mr. Minear, but The Inside wasn't that great of a show. I caught the pilot and it failed to drag me in, and I just watched last week's episode to give it another chance and was still left unimpressed. Admittedly, I'm burned out on cop shows and this one didn't have enough of an edge to it to keep me enthralled. It wasn't bad by any means, it just seemed a little too "by the numbers" for my taste. I also was less than impressed with the casting. The lead actress is just too young and pretty to be believable in the role, at least to me since I have trouble sympathizing with any character who looks like an underwear model. Peter Coyote's character was simply plain and boring, and with the exception of Adam Baldwin everyone else in the cast was forgettable.

Here's hoping that with his Fox contract expired that Tim Minear will hop onboard to help write the Serenity sequel!

"What y'all order a dead guy for?" - Jayne Cobb

GWEK

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 1:21 PM

Blackdove, I agree that The Inside isn't the best show we've seen from the extended Whedon family, but I think it's better than you're giving it credit for. I also think that it's one of the shows that gets better with every episode. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's double-dose to see what happens.

PATSRULE

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Gorram it to the special Hell!!!
Figures. You put a good quality show on the air, one that makes people think and has substance and sure as anything the execs won't get it. They are stuck in reality show mode and can't seem to recall a time before that offal they air now.

I enjoyed the show for its entertainment value, but to call it a good quality show that makes people think and has substance? I disagree, if I tried to think about it, I would think it is somewhat unrealistic and lacked substance. It has some creative writing applied to a tired and overdone genre. You can get away with creative writing in Sci-fi and comedy, but it you have to stay a little more grounded in a police procedural type show. Fox has made mistakes along the way, but unless the last 8 or so episodes get better, not renewing this one isn't one of them. Just my opinion.

BIKISDAD

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 2:39 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
Blackdove, I agree that The Inside isn't the best show we've seen from the extended Whedon family, but I think it's better than you're giving it credit for. I also think that it's one of the shows that gets better with every episode. I'm looking forward to tomorrow's double-dose to see what happens.

I have to agree wholeheartedly with this. TI has so much more subtlety and character development than ANY of the "Law & Order or CSI clones. It's not even close. If you didn't understand that the first time you watched episodes, it would really pay to go back and watch them again. Like all other ME shows, each episode "gets better" each time you watch it, as you become aware of the details and subtleties involved. Those are things that don't exist on any other "cop show" on tv.

I'm really sorry for Tim - again, not to mention Adam and Katie, who have both had this experience with F*X twice now. However, I'm not going to completely blame F*X for this failure. Unlike Firefly and Wonderfalls, this time they promoted the show and gave it a good time slot. Still the ratings were terrible. Why? Because the mindless masses were watching dancing celebrities instead of something that required their actual attention and the ability to engage their "minds" - not that they actually have any.

Let's face it, the average tv viewer is a complete idiot. Just look at the shows that are "Successful" on tv vs. the shows that "Fail". I think both Joss and Tim know that they are producing entertainment for a very small portion of the viewing public. They could easily produce some reality crap show and be hugely successful at it. Although, as Joss has said, then he would have to kill himself.

I just want to thank Tim for keeping at it and making these great shows that we don't get to see for very long, but from which we get these great dvd sets. At least we can watch the dvds over and over - and that's a hell of a lot better than watching a bunch of stupid "celebrities" dance or watching people eat worms, or whatever crap they're shovelling at us in "reality" land.

This is getting way longer than I had intended. I really just wanted to say "Thank you" to Tim, Howard, Adam, Katie, Peter and Rachel. I hope you all have long and successful careers.

EDIT: Geez, sorry. Also, thanks to Jane Espenson, Ben Edlund, David Fury, Robert Hall, Ron Kral and anyone else I forgot to mention before.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

GWEK

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 2:58 PM

You forgot to thank lots of folks, but I think Nelsan Ellis and Jay Harrington (the two other regulars) deserve kudos. Harrington, in particular, I think turns in an understated and stable performance while surrounded by quirky and extreme personalities. To me, he's Simon with a little more maturity and poise.

I think perhaps the biggest problem with The Inside is its tone, compared to the time of year it's coming out. Shows like Survivor and The OC have traditionally done well when introduced during the summer, but The Inside is probably the most unrelentingly grim and bleak program I've watched since Millennium, and it's airing during the summer, when folks are looking to kick back and relax.

On the other hand, if they'd waited until September, it would've been lost in a cascade of similar shows... Just no safe haven, is there?

Well, I hope we get to see at least the majority of the scheduled episodes, and get a little insight into the secrets of the other folks on the squad.

BIKISDAD

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 3:14 PM

Thanks, Gwek. I did forget couple of other noteworthy people. My bad.

Well, I wouldn't call it that grim. There were times in every episode that I laughed my head off at some of the subtle jokes - especially Jane's episode last week. I almost couldn't stop laughing during that one. L and O and CSI NEVER have anything funny like that. Unfortunately, I think most people just didn't understand the humour.

Oh, and to those of you saying "Oh, The Inside wasn't really very good..." Just wait until you see what F*X replaces it with, then you'll see what "not good" really is. They've already started advertising their own dancing reality show. I hope you all like that better than TI...

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

LISSA

Tuesday, July 5, 2005 3:34 PM

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Originally posted by BlackDove:
The lead actress is just too young and pretty to be believable in the role, at least to me since I have trouble sympathizing with any character who looks like an underwear model.

um...so pretty people can't be smart too?

~lissa, spwhore

ETA: i would write more but unfortunately i don't have fox, and i currently have zero contacts who can tape for me. it was easier in high school...so anyways, i eagerly anticipate the dvd set, and i'm sure i will love it.

WHITEFALL

Thursday, July 7, 2005 1:52 AM

At first I was pissed about the 'underwear model' aspect to Nichols' look, but if you pay attention, the whole thing makes sense. For one thing, the fact that she is a "conventional" beauty lets her fit the part as a former abductee, and it is mentioned in the first or second episode that Web was the reason she got into the FBI at all. So, yeah, I agree she should have looked older, but the character is very passionate about what she isn't.

"Some people juggle geese!" -Ancient Chinese proverb.

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