Spy plane recons over Iran; Guess who's next?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, July 20, 2026 16:44
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Originally posted by lynchaj:
A draft would just bring a bunch of unmotivated, untrainable, and discontented into the ranks. Adding a draft would probably do more harm than good, raise costs, and diminish capability.
This is what you think of the average American?! Were all our soldiers in Vietnam of such poor quality? Be very carefull how you answer, you could be branded an 'American-hater'!!
Why don't you move to a country where a draft would get a collection of able-bodied (and minded) people that would be respected by you?
I play chess, too Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
But you're cynical that Iran received any of Iraq's DEATH STARS before the takin down of Saddam?
But maybe so. It's more likely that the DEATH STAR stash was buried and/or sent to Syria instead of Iran.
And DEATH STARS would be down the list of reasons why to attack Iran. Which I don't think we'll do. At all.
I made a substitution. I figger he had as many of those as he did useable WMD's.
All whimsical in the brainpan Chrisisall
It's clear that you live in a world not rooted in reality. Replace WMD w/ Death Stars or Koala Bears, Iraq was in violation for 17 UN Resolutions, and failed countless times to abide by the cease fire agreements of Gulf War 1.
Make your case that even all that didn't require military action in Iraq, fine. But don't try to rewrite history ( or in your case, replace WMD for Death Stars ) and expect your point to be taken seriously. It won't.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Duh! Death Stars ain't even real. You can't rewrite history like that Chrisisall!
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Oh, and lordy, what the heck is a "rogue regime" anyway?
HKCavalier
Well, A Rogue Regime is an idea I had several years back in which "Rogue", having the ability to drain powers from other mutants, drains Jamie Maddrox AKA "Multiple Man" (He makes duplicates of himself up to 40 or so) and then makes several more of herself. With her flight, nigh invunerability, and super strength, she'd be...
oh, nevermind, not what you meant.
Hey, it's the 4th of July. Don't forget to thank a soldier for your freedom to protest.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And why is it that only Democrats like Charles Rangel are talking 'DRAFT' and yet every liberal wahoo under the sun thinks Bush is plotting some sort of devious surprise Draft ??
We're all aware of Ron Suskind's article in the NYTimes Magazine from last October with the infamous "reality-based community" paragraph, yes?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1255665600&e
n=890a96189e162076&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
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The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
I think the reason so many who oppose Bush assume he's got a draft in the works is because they can see no other way for Bush to continue escalating his "War on Terror" without it. But they forget that this is the same Bush who exponentially increases the military budget while giving tax breaks. I think it's the impossibility of his project that, deep down, appeals to Americans who, deep down, despair of ever feeling safe or free again.
A lot of people in this country want Bush to succeed against all odds, they want him to beat reality at its own game, so to speak. Reality says a "War on Terror" is a meaningless pose like all the other "Wars on" have been. Reality says we can never control our borders enough to be absolutely safe from terrorist attack. Reality says we cannot destroy the terrorist urge by killing terrorists. Reality says we cannot wage war on an idea.
But we want to. We want to be "safe" again. We want American pluck and tenacity to prevail, just 'cause it should. 'Cause we're the good guys. We have a destiny. Bush and Rove understand this and that's why they have chosen such an absolutist stance on absolutely everything. When Bush dodges another nay-saying media bullet, a part of us sees him sticking it to reality and we applaud. Unable to give us reality-based solutions to insoluble problems, they give us the dream of a triumphant America, black and white politics, state of the art new clothes on the emperor and we the people eat it up.
HKCavalier
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Well said, HK. I just wish I didn't have to be there when these nitwits wake up from their little dream.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Make your case that even all that didn't require military action in Iraq, fine. But don't try to rewrite history ( or in your case, replace WMD for Death Stars ) and expect your point to be taken seriously. It won't.
"Lighten up, jerk!!"
Sorry, I couldn't resist using that Marty McFly line. You're no jerk, I was only trying to say that IMO the WMD's are like the Death Star: ficticious.
And if I can't rewrite history, WHO CAN??
Oh, that's right. Washington (London, Bejing, Moscow, etc.) can.
Everything depends richly on your point of view Chrisisall
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Duh! Death Stars ain't even real. You can't rewrite history like that Chrisisall!
Sorry. Won't happen again.
Yeah, and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot Chrisisall
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Hmmmmm
If UN resolutions must be obeyed.....
How come Israel wasn't bombed ever by the US for its many violations ?
http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html
Hmmmmmmmmmm
And since Bush didn't allow the security council to vote on this little adventure, lets not bring the UN into this anymore. The US had/has its own reasons to invade/occupy/install puppet government in Iraq, they acted alone ( well with the bought and paid for allies ) and rightfully they should stand alone.
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My logic ties you up and rapes you
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Quote:Because all the UN resolutions concerning Israel and the Palestinians are under Chapter Six of the UN charter, meaning that they are unbinding, unenforceable recommendations, not like those under Chapter Seven, which are binding and enforceable. All the UN resolutions concerning Iraq since Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait are Chapter Seven resolutions.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Hmmmmm
If UN resolutions must be obeyed.....
How come Israel wasn't bombed ever by the US for its many violations ?
Quote:You mean as opposed to those allies who were bought and paid by the Oil for Food Program?
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
And since Bush didn't allow the security council to vote on this little adventure, lets not bring the UN into this anymore. The US had/has its own reasons to invade/occupy/install puppet government in Iraq, they acted alone ( well with the bought and paid for allies ) and rightfully they should stand alone.
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