Favorite Book into Film, Not Yet Done?
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One of my favorite series is the Dark Tower by Stephen King. On one hand, I'd love to see it as a movie. BUT, I dunno if Hollywood could pull it off.
The current series I'm reading is The Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan. Its a 12 book series that I'm really enjoying. Time moves slow and lots of plots going on but it keeps it interesting.
I'm not sure who would star or direct these movies but it would be fun to see if they could be done
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Notre Dame by Victor Hugo.
Although there are two versions of this book, and a Disney animated
movie, none of them have stuck to the real tragedy of the original
story. Plus none of them explored 'Notre Dame' Cathedral as a
character. So I'd love to see this made into a film. When I was
younger and dreaming of being a director this was my pet project, I
even started doodling a graphic novel of it. So this is very much top
of my list of Books into films.
In terms of cast and crew :
Director: Tim Burton
Music: Danny Elfman
Cinematographer: Stephan Czapsky
Adaptation: Richard Gravanese(sp) (He wrote Fisher King)
Cast:
Quasimodo - Ron Perlman
Frodo - Gerard Depardieu
Phoebus - Jude Law
Esmeralda - Morena Bacarin or Lenor Varela
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Lastly a concise TV show about :
On Thousand and one Nights. With a new cast and crew every week. Telling these great fantasy tales. Some great directors could have a go at directing a show every week. That'd be fun.
Those are my choices for now. :)
TheSomnambulist
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i third the notre dame de paris nomination! one of my very favorite books of all time. the disney version is fun in its own right, but when lined up with the movie..well..you can't. who's brilliant idea was it to make a disney movie out of that kind of tragedy, anyway?
have you seen the musical notre dame de paris? i didn't see the english version (which i heard was pretty bad) but the french version was frelling brilliant. i think up to date it is the best adaptation of that book (although i haven't seen the early 20s/30s films).
i'd been searching for an esmeralda forever and then i saw firefly and was like damn, here she is. morena baccarin would be absolutely perfect. to quote joss: "hmm..where am i going to find an olive-skinned beauty (ahemmorenaahem)?" i think summer glau would also be brilliant, especially with her dancing skills. actually, now that i'm think about it, i think i like the idea of summer even better..esmeralda was so free and innocent in the beginning.
i know nothing at all about directors so i couldn't tell you anything, but i think joss would do great with the tragedy/comedy aspect. well, not so much comedy per se, but there is a lot of humor in nddp.
gonna have to research casting a bit...i haven't thought the other characters out so much yet. who would be gringoire? easily my favorite character...casting is crucial. but for frollo, i think daneil lavoie or michel pascal would be really great. and garou for quasimodo. but then, i'm really partial to the musical casts. in fact, put richard charest and patrick fiori in there somewhere as gringoire and phoebus.
i absolute love your 1001 nights idea. i think that would be so much fun, if done correctly.
my other favorite books would be el alquimista by paulo coleho and the outsiders by s.e. hinton. i love the film version of the outsiders, although a new one would be beautiful as well. i could see james franco as dally, even though he isn't bleach blonde.
el alquimista (or the alchemist) is apparently going to be made in reality, but i haven't heard any solid plans on it yet, so i don't really know. the only thing about alquimista would be that it would seem to be actually a very slow film, since it's all about this one boy whose name is referred to about once in the entire book. some young, olive-skinned, talented (and preferably pretty) boy, a newcomer...any ideas?
wow. that was long. i apologize. i have some kind of odd attachment to notre dame de paris. i think i'll post more later
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There have been many great suggestions on this thread, but here's a couple that haven't been seen yet:
Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos series (Hyperion, The Fall of Hyperion, Endymion and The Rise of Endymion). If you haven't read Simmons, by all means do; he's awesome.
Larry Niven's The Smoke Ring and The Integral Trees. (or any part of the Man'Kzin Wars system).
Stephen Stirling's Island in the Sea of Time series.
Well, that's more than a couple. Plus, I maintain that Dune has still not been done decently. A tough nut to crack, but surely some cinematographer could do it.
Oh, and I certainly second nominations above for the work of Heinlein, McCaffrey, and many others.
Lastly, I haven't yet seen the recent Wizard of Earthsea. Was it any good? I'm a longtime fan of Ursula LeGuin.
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Glory Road by Robert A. Heinlein. It starts as a war story, segues into a wonderfully witty sword-and-sorcery adventure, and finishes strong with a final third that's pure sociological Science Fiction. This is a film that I've kept casting and re-casting in my head for nearly thirty years.
Also, Laurel K. Hamilton's Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series has massive untapped movie potential. My wife and I spend hours debating casting call for this one (So far Kevin Sorbo has the inside track for Richard).
H. Beam Piper's Lone Star Planet (AKA A Planet for Texans)could make a wonderful comedy. I see Jim Carrey as Ambassador Stephen Silk, an up-and-comer in the Terran Diplomatic Corps who finds himself assigned to the unalligned colony of New Texas, which has a rather... unique political system -- killing a practicing politician isn't considered a crime, except to the extent that the deceased polecat didn't deserve it. The trial of the killer becomes a de facto trial of the late politician's public record. Sounds like an idea whose time has come to me... Lots of room for timely satire here.
"Do you know what the definition of a hero is? It's somebody who gets somebody else killed." -- Zoë Warren
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i third the notre dame de paris nomination! one of my very favorite books of all time. the disney version is fun in its own right, but when lined up with the movie..well..you can't. who's brilliant idea was it to make a disney movie out of that kind of tragedy, anyway?
In fairness to Disney all of the versions tend to end on a light note.
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have you seen the musical notre dame de paris? i didn't see the english version (which i heard was pretty bad) but the french version was frelling brilliant. i think up to date it is the best adaptation of that book (although i haven't seen the early 20s/30s films).
I haven't no, I have to admit the idea of a musical version doesn't appeal to me straight away, but then I could be swayed if it really is that good. I'm just not into musicals particularly. The early 20's film, which I saw when I was young I remember as being engaging but I've forgotten about the specifics, and I'm not sure how accurate to the book it was.
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i'd been searching for an esmeralda forever and then i saw firefly and was like damn, here she is.
Hey I thought that too!!! Although it crossed my mind that for the role she may now be too old. Esmeralda was supposed to be sixteen wasn't she? Or in her teens I think.... So it may require an entirely new face, but certainly I saw Morena and thought how pefect she is for Esmeralda.
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i think summer glau would also be brilliant, especially with her dancing skills. actually, now that i'm think about it, i think i like the idea of summer even better..esmeralda was so free and innocent in the beginning.
That's a fair point, her free spirit is in tune with Summer, and she would seem more like a person who would have a pet goat.
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i know nothing at all about directors so i couldn't tell you anything, but i think joss would do great with the tragedy/comedy aspect. well, not so much comedy per se, but there is a lot of humor in nddp.
You know I wondered about Joss and how he may interpret it, I'm not sure though... I think Burton is more in tune with the kind of character Quasimodo is, I mean look at Edward Scissorhands, he's not too far off the Quasimodo character. They're both handicapped, both loners, and both live in a gothic retreat... I'm sure Burton drew upon the great Gothic characters to find Edward Scissorhands so I think he's just there to start with.
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gonna have to research casting a bit...i haven't thought the other characters out so much yet. who would be gringoire?
Yeah I totally forgot about Gringoire. Hmmm Yeah I may have to come back to you on that one, I'll give it some thought. Wait actually now I think of it Dominique Pinon from Delicatessen, and Alien4 would be superb.
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easily my favorite character...casting is crucial. but for frollo, i think daneil lavoie or michel pascal would be really great. and garou for quasimodo. but then, i'm really partial to the musical casts. in fact, put richard charest and patrick fiori in there somewhere as gringoire and phoebus.
Sadly I don't know these guys. I wish I did as I'd love to see how you're visualising this. Oh and apologies for spelling Frodo, in my original post, too much Lord of the Rings these days! I mixed 'em up.
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i absolute love your 1001 nights idea. i think that would be so much fun, if done correctly.
Why thank you :) I'm often surprised that nobody in hollywood has tapped into these tales. I'd love to do these also.
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el alquimista (or the alchemist) is apparently going to be made in reality, but i haven't heard any solid plans on it yet, so i don't really know. the only thing about alquimista would be that it would seem to be actually a very slow film, since it's all about this one boy whose name is referred to about once in the entire book. some young, olive-skinned, talented (and preferably pretty) boy, a newcomer...any ideas?
Yeah read this a while back now, it didn't ma
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In fairness to Disney all of the versions tend to end on a light note.
Haha yes, I guess they do. It's just so funny to see sometimes.
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I haven't no, I have to admit the idea of a musical version doesn't appeal to me straight away, but then I could be swayed if it really is that good. I'm just not into musicals particularly. The early 20's film, which I saw when I was young I remember as being engaging but I've forgotten about the specifics, and I'm not sure how accurate to the book it was.
I must admit, I'm the type that comes down favorably on the side of musicals. But only if they've got a crazy good story line and involve some type of tragedy...Mamma Mia!, for example, bored me to death. The thing about Notre-Dame de Paris, though, is that there isn't a single line of spoken dialogue. Everything is sung beautifully in French. I'd recommend listing to clips of the Original Cast Recording (I think they've got them on Amazon). For starters, "Les temps de cathédrales" and "Belle" are gorgeous songs in their own right. My personal favorite is "Lune", I think. But then you could end up hating it..a lot of my friends just look at me funny when I tell them how amazing it is
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Hey I thought that too!!! Although it crossed my mind that for the role she may now be too old. Esmeralda was supposed to be sixteen wasn't she? Or in her teens I think.... So it may require an entirely new face, but certainly I saw Morena and thought how pefect she is for Esmeralda.
Cool, I'm not crazy! Or maybe we both are. Hee. Yeah, Morena's age is the only thing I had against her playing Esmeralda, and that's where I originally got the idea for Summer playing her instead. Although Morena has the absolute perfect look and "undefinable allure", she's not quite as carefree as Summer can be. Or maybe one day she'll do a part as Esmeralda and blow us all away. Who knows?
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That's a fair point, her free spirit is in tune with Summer, and she would seem more like a person who would have a pet goat.
Hahahaha. I think I'm going to have to go rewatch the cow scene in "Safe".
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You know I wondered about Joss and how he may interpret it, I'm not sure though... I think Burton is more in tune with the kind of character Quasimodo is, I mean look at Edward Scissorhands, he's not too far off the Quasimodo character. They're both handicapped, both loners, and both live in a gothic retreat... I'm sure Burton drew upon the great Gothic characters to find Edward Scissorhands so I think he's just there to start with.
You know, that's actually a really good point. I think Burton is great with the gothicism. The only thing I have with that is that a.) I'm afraid Burton will make it all wacky-like (not that I've got anything against wacky, but I don't know how that would play out with this material) and b.) I don't know how he would deal with the gothicism, whether he would actually put a focus on the cathedral, which would probably be a first, or whether he'd make all the human characters different. Man, I really want to see this film made now.
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Yeah I totally forgot about Gringoire. Hmmm Yeah I may have to come back to you on that one, I'll give it some thought. Wait actually now I think of it Dominique Pinon from Delicatessen, and Alien4 would be superb.
Hmm..I don't think I know him. The problem I have with coming up with good casting ideas is that I seem to be physically incapable of remembering people outside of what I'm currently watching/thinking about. So right now all I can see is the Firefly cast and, for some reason, the League of Extraordinary gentlemen (
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I must admit, I'm the type that comes down favorably on the side of musicals. But only if they've got a crazy good story line and involve some type of tragedy...Mamma Mia!, for example, bored me to death. The thing about Notre-Dame de Paris, though, is that there isn't a single line of spoken dialogue. Everything is sung beautifully in French. I'd recommend listing to clips of the Original Cast Recording (I think they've got them on Amazon). For starters, "Les temps de cathédrales" and "Belle" are gorgeous songs in their own right. My personal favorite is "Lune", I think. But then you could end up hating it..a lot of my friends just look at me funny when I tell them how amazing it is .
It is tricky with musicals isn't it? I usually find the wealth of music overwhelming, or strident. Plus I'm really fussy when it comes to music in general, so I'm often jarred by the 'style' equally as much as the tune itself. Funnily enough the only musical which I did like tends to be hated by everyone else and that is Absolute Beginners Have you seen it? Well none of my friends quite understand how I can hate musicals and yet like that one, and to be honest I have no idea either. Oh and Blues Brothers but that's slightly different... :)
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Cool, I'm not crazy! Or maybe we both are. Hee. Yeah, Morena's age is the only thing I had against her playing Esmeralda, and that's where I originally got the idea for Summer playing her instead. Although Morena has the absolute perfect look and "undefinable allure", she's not quite as carefree as Summer can be. Or maybe one day she'll do a part as Esmeralda and blow us all away. Who knows?
Yeah we could be crazy
Still we're having fun with it so what's the harm. Morena as she is now is perhaps the closest I've seen who fits the description of Esmeralda - but if it were to be made, I think in all reality it would need someone considerably younger and more vulnerable looking. But for now, if I re-read Notre Dame of Paris, she'll be my Esmeralda.Quote:
Hahahaha. I think I'm going to have to go rewatch the cow scene in "Safe".
I like that scene :) Cows are funny! Mind you so are goats! My parents used to have goats and they used to crack me up! You ever hear a goat sneeze? That's the funniset thing ever.... As they eat the tall grass, often it'd tickle there noses and make them sneeze and they look so perplexed as to what is happening to them that it's all the more hilarious! They were funny those goats.....
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You know, that's actually a really good point. I think Burton is great with the gothicism. The only thing I have with that is that a.) I'm afraid Burton will make it all wacky-like (not that I've got anything against wacky, but I don't know how that would play out with this material) and b.) I don't know how he would deal with the gothicism, whether he would actually put a focus on the cathedral, which would probably be a first, or whether he'd make all the human characters different. Man, I really want to see this film made now.
I think Burton's on tune to do something not just dark, but also serious... I just think he's approaching that time. Big Fish was a revelation, and although not gothic, it proved his ability to tell a tale of sadness without over sentiment, which is what Notre Dame needs. Also Burton is the most unrelenting when it comes to finalés... He rarely has a happy ending, and often leaves a touch of ambiguity or sadness to his films' conclusions. In all honesty I can't think of a better director for this, save someone like Burgman or Woody Allen (in his serious modes). Directors can be very fearful of melancholia for an ending, but even with a major studios imput Burton has manged to do this. Look at Batman and Batman Returns. A huge blockbuster, with a very ambigious ending.
As for your second point that's an uncertainty really. I know what you mean. He possobly could treat the Gothic as nothing more than a visual vehicle. This is his style to a certain extent so you h
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It is tricky with musicals isn't it? I usually find the wealth of music overwhelming, or strident. Plus I'm really fussy when it comes to music in general, so I'm often jarred by the 'style' equally as much as the tune itself. Funnily enough the only musical which I did like tends to be hated by everyone else and that is Absolute Beginners Have you seen it? Well none of my friends quite understand how I can hate musicals and yet like that one, and to be honest I have no idea either. Oh and Blues Brothers but that's slightly different... :)
I actually have never heard of that one...why's it so hated? Heh, the Blues Brothers. The only quibble I had with Notre-Dame de Paris was that they pronounced ΑΝΑΓΚΗ as anarkia. Maybe it´s my Greek training, but it just bugged me.
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Yeah we could be crazyStill we're having fun with it so what's the harm. Morena as she is now is perhaps the closest I've seen who fits the description of Esmeralda - but if it were to be made, I think in all reality it would need someone considerably younger and more vulnerable looking. But for now, if I re-read Notre Dame of Paris, she'll be my Esmeralda.
Morena is definitely just..the perfect Esmeralda. And her gorgeous wardrobe doesn't hurt. Yeah, when I re-read, I think I'll be switching back and forth between Morena and Summer.
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I like that scene :) Cows are funny! Mind you so are goats! My parents used to have goats and they used to crack me up! You ever hear a goat sneeze? That's the funniset thing ever.... As they eat the tall grass, often it'd tickle there noses and make them sneeze and they look so perplexed as to what is happening to them that it's all the more hilarious! They were funny those goats.....
HAHAHA! I want one! Hee, now I'm having Angel flashbacks. Oh, that reminded me - go here: http://www.geocities.com/pierregringoire/Disclaimer.html and scroll down until you see a button called "shockwave" on the left. It is hi-larious.
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I think Burton's on tune to do something not just dark, but also serious... I just think he's approaching that time. Big Fish was a revelation, and although not gothic, it proved his ability to tell a tale of sadness without over sentiment, which is what Notre Dame needs. Also Burton is the most unrelenting when it comes to finalés... He rarely has a happy ending, and often leaves a touch of ambiguity or sadness to his films' conclusions. In all honesty I can't think of a better director for this, save someone like Burgman or Woody Allen (in his serious modes). Directors can be very fearful of melancholia for an ending, but even with a major studios imput Burton has manged to do this. Look at Batman and Batman Returns. A huge blockbuster, with a very ambigious ending.
He did Big Fish? I didn't know that! That was a brilliant movie (and an even better book). I don't actually remember the first Batman films (except that Jack Nicholson was frelling scary), but I'll have to go rewatch them. I think he really might be the best choice for this..namely because after Mighty Aphrodite, I cannot take Woody Allen seriously.
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As for your second point that's an uncertainty really. I know what you mean. He possobly could treat the Gothic as nothing more than a visual vehicle. This is his style to a certain extent so you have a point there.
Yeah...I wouldn't mind a lot of visual Gothicism, especially with the cathedral, as long as he does put a great focus on the cathedral itself.
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Heck I'll make it if someone gives me the budget! I'm all into this idea again now!!! Ho humm!
*Throws hands into the air*
Hee! I'll help!
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airylli wrote:
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I actually have never heard of that one...why's it so hated? Heh, the Blues Brothers. The only quibble I had with Notre-Dame de Paris was that they pronounced ANAGKH as anarkia. Maybe it´s my Greek training, but it just bugged me.
I'm not really sure. It came around the mid eighties, and I think the idea of resurrecting the 'musical' was deemed silly. Fact is I thought it was really hip. David Bowie was in it and he wrote some of the songs. It was about 60's Britain. I thought it had some style and punch, but everyone else I know just thinks it's trash... It was directed by Juiln Temple who later went on to do 'Earth Girls are Easy'.
Quote:Yeah I loved that intro to that episode. Just the way he looks down at those goats. Funny.
HAHAHA! I want one! Hee, now I'm having Angel flashbacks.
I couldn't get that flash to work - I'm on my lowly 56k modem thingy and I've not downloaded the latest version of flash. I'll try at work another time. Thanks though. I read some of the stuff there.
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He did Big Fish? I didn't know that! That was a brilliant movie (and an even better book). I don't actually remember the first Batman films (except that Jack Nicholson was frelling scary), but I'll have to go rewatch them. I think he really might be the best choice for this..namely because after Mighty Aphrodite, I cannot take Woody Allen seriously.
Yeah Big Fish is awesome.... Really moving. I have to admit I wasn't a big fan of the first Batman, although Jack Nickelson was great. No I was more into Batman Returns - that's seriously twisted and Bizarre, and Michelle Pfeiffer is brilliant. Danny Devito as Penguin is tragic and Keaton as Batman is finally allowed to be the suffering hero.
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Yeah...I wouldn't mind a lot of visual Gothicism, especially with the cathedral, as long as he does put a great focus on the cathedral itself.
Y'know these days though, most probably it'd have to be a CGI Notre Dame :( Not sure I like that idea, but you can see why it would be so....
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Hee! I'll help!
Hey - excellent. Maybe we should collaborate on an adaptation :) Man I wish I could really commit to that. So much work and so little time.. Oh well we can dream eh?
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Oh, by all means, keep avoiding it. I was forced to sit through it half of it two days ago and...:shudder:. The only reason I didn't poke my eyes out was that I love Stuart Townsend. It could've been such a great movie, but...blech. You know, Sean does have a certain Phoebus quality to him, what with the nobleness and all. Actually though, I could see him as a Jehan as well, with all that naked singing he does on top of Hippocrates .
I'll keep doing so :) As for Sean - you know maybe he's just too nicer a guy for that part. I really despised Phoebus when I read the book! I projected images of all the guys I went to college with who stole the hearts of girls I liked... Ok so a tiny bit jealous but y'know I'm ok now....However that was the power of the book.
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Sinbad films? I know the animated movie Sinbad with Brad Pitt, but I don't think that's what you're talking about...Heh. Another project. Wheee!
Woah!!! Yeah you're in for a treat if you can buy these on DVD. They're great fun! They're really Ray Harryhausen's masterpieces, very enjoyable. I have The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad made in 1958 on DVD. Its famous for having a sword fight between Sinbad, and a Skeleton warrior. Similar to Jason and the Argonauts but came earlier so it's not as polished. However the adventure is very enjoyable. Cyclops, Giant Eagles, Genies, Dragons, man you name it it's got it. Fantastic film. However there is one version where Vincent Price is side kick to Sinbad played by Douglas Fairbanks JR - this is a superb film and Vincent Price is hilarious. It was actually thought a bit racey as it had a lot of delicately dressed women in it.
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Yuhuh! Now...who do we know that's a young Willem Dafoe?
Presently no, but I'm going to keep my eye out for o
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