Dark Angel - Schmaltz or smarts??

POSTED BY: Zoot
UPDATED: Thursday, August 18, 2005 23:10
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:50 PM

Funny, Zoot, I just watched DDA night before last, and SAH last night. I liked Jessica's 'other' Max, she played her just differently enough that I bought it.
"I'm gonna tell Mom and Dad!" that was great.
I normally skip LATR so my next ep is Freak Nation. Always a little sad when I watch that one, there was so much more they could have done...
You might have to order the books, I had to, no one 'round here had 'em in stock. I actually just got the last (third) one, I just wanted to get an ending, and although I have mixed feelings on how the plot is handled, Max (funny-huh?) Collins is a damn good writer when it comes to getting the characters spot on. (did I use that phrase correctly?)

Transgenic Yank Chrisisall

ZOOT

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:44 PM

the phrase "spot on"? Yes very english I'll-have-my-tea-now ...

Yes already ordered one of the books to try out on Amazon - hardly ever go into yer actual "shops" anymore anyhoo ....

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:15 PM

I'm probably gonna order the first two just to have that little extra DA in my posession.
Last two eps tonight, eh? Freak Nation isn't 45 minutes like the rest of the shows, it comes in at 61 minutes (give or take a couple for the scan speed change from region to region). Cameron couldn't resist shooting too much, and they kept it all in. Lucky us!

Okay, what's Alec's # Chrisisall

ZOOT

Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:27 AM

Omigosh! Just watched Freak Nation …. How could they leave it like that???? So many loose ends! What happens to them all?? What happens to White?? Will Max ever bloody tell Logan that she’s not with Alec and that she loves him?? (although if Alec is free …. Just offering) …..

I loved the episode but can see why people didn’t feel it was a sufficient finale – but I guess if they were planning a 3rd season they thought they didn’t have to worry ….

Where were they planning to take it in the 3rd season anyhow?

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:05 PM

Glad you liked Freak Nation, I watched it last night as well. That scene where Logan is reading the runes on Max's back always gets me. So close, it hurts. Logan knows that she dosen't love Alec, she doesn't have to tell him at this point. Emotionally, for me, it's an ending. They love eachother, they know it, and they'll be together. I like the way he's holding her hand at the end.

Presumably, the third season would concern itself with White fighting his way back into the Conclave, and trying to kill Max. Terminal City would become a real home base for the 'genetically empowered', and at some point they prove themselves helping out the Normals and gain acceptance, of a kind.
The comet that passes Earth every million years or whatever killing most life on the planet shows up, just like the Cult forsees, and being bred to be resistant to it's effects, they welcome it, knowing it will kill off most Normals and leave the world in their hands.
Max, Logan, some scientists, and the brightest from Terminal City figure out how to splice Max's genetic protection (that Sandeman specifically designed) onto a cold virus and design a delivery system to spread the virus around the world, thus giving humanity at large a bad cold, but saving them from the comet in the process.
Of course White would die trying to stop the launch of the cold virus, screaming and moaning like the bitch he is.
And another of the comet's effects is killing off exotic designer-type virus', allowing Max and Logan to finally hit it (that's my own theory as to how they were gonna take care of the virus Max was carrying- seems possible to me).

So that's it. The Max Collins books take it to a somewhat different conclusion. They're good, and definitly provide a sense of closure, so I give them a qualified recommendation for that purpose.

Look what you've done Chrisisall

FANTASTICLAUGHINGFAIRY

Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:48 PM

Have any of you guys ever seen the Angel finale - the last one ever (season 5)?
Because to me it seems remarkably similar to DA's ending. You just don't know what's going to happen. It seems likely they'll all die (why can't the government just drop a bomb on Terminal City anyway?) and it's just one of those huge cliffhanger endings, and Joss knew that Angel was most likely not coming back for another series. Has anyone else noticed this?

...and we will call it...this land...

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by fantasticlaughingfairy:
(why can't the government just drop a bomb on Terminal City anyway?)

That would be like dropping a bomb on a present-day prison, sure some would go along with it, but public outrage at the inhumanity of it would be politically disasterous for whatever government agency or administration that gave the order.

Haven't seen Angel's finale, but read about it. Seems similar except in Angel there is a very real possibility that they'll be dead in the next twenty minutes (although probably not), And with Dark Angel thing are more stable; they've quieted down to a simmer.

Suffering from Angel deficit syndrome Chrisisall

ZOOT

Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:59 PM

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That scene where Logan is reading the runes on Max's back always gets me. So close, it hurts. Logan knows that she dosen't love Alec, she doesn't have to tell him at this point.

Good point! OK! Feel much better now he knows that she knows that he knows etc. etc. And frankly I too loved that scene -

am now rewatching all the good episodes ...

I agree with your delineation in the main, by the way, although I'd put "Borrowed Time" on the no reservations "good episode" list - if only for the conversation between Alec and Max in the closet which I watched 3 times last night alone - and of course for the general Max/ Logan angst ...

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:20 PM

Okay Zoot, I'm easy. I changed two of 'em over to 'good', left the two sometimes-silly ones in 'acceptable'.
But, is this an alternate reality (re: Borrowed Time)? I thought they finished the Star Wars films...

Smart Alec Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Saturday, July 2, 2005 4:25 PM

Zoot, you've had a few days after seein' Freak Nation, how do you rate the series as a whole?
From an overview, do you feel they told a pretty good tale?
I feel that we saw a frightened and alone young woman grow up some, gain confidence in herself, and, in the end, even allow friendship and love in the door.
Not bad, for a couple of seasons, huh?

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