FFF.net I've Seen Serenity Thread **MAJOR SPOILERS**

POSTED BY: everyworldspinnin
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 04:21
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A couple of things. First of all, I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that Ron Glass asked to be written out for health reasons. Tho, as I've said, this could be total bunk. Also, I've heard that when cast members read the script, they were worried about how the actor of one of the characters who died was going to take the news, and no one wanted to be the one to tell him. I'm guessing this is referring to Alan Tudyk, leading me to assume he didn't want out.

About the continuity discrepencies, the best fanwank I've heard about the beginning is that the people Simon hired were the ones flying the ship and that Simon put River in cryo then and split up, as the Alliance would be looking for them both and that after lying low for a bit, they met up with him on Persephone and he took River onto Serenity. The harder thing to reconcile about this, in my opinion, is one of the Alliance officer's lines about how Simon used all his money bribing people and finding out about where River was, whereas in Serenity (episode), Simon says he was approached by people who knew where River was and that all they needed was money.

As far as the other continuity issue, Book says that he hadn't been out in the world for a while. It's possible he spent some of that time in Haven, and that when he left Serenity he just returned there, to a community that already knew him. And it wouldn't take much for the crew of Serenity to be familiar with and welcomed in Haven, especially with Book being influential there. They'd probably only need to help the people there out once and/or maybe crash there a few times after a heist for the people to get to know them.

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I've seen Serenity twice now, and Ron and Nathan were at the first Austin screening on May 5. From what they both said I am positive that in the case of character deaths it was Joss' decision on a plot level only, nothing to do with an actor wanting out for any reason. As for health concerns for Ron, for those who have seen the BDM you can rest assured that the way he appeared there is a combination of good acting and makeup. In Austin he appeared to be in extremely good shape.




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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I've seen Serenity twice now, and Ron and Nathan were at the first Austin screening on May 5. From what they both said I am positive that in the case of character deaths it was Joss' decision on a plot level only, nothing to do with an actor wanting out for any reason. As for health concerns for Ron, for those who have seen the BDM you can rest assured that the way he appeared there is a combination of good acting and makeup. In Austin he appeared to be in extremely good shape.

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I always had the suspicion that Ron was content w/ having been Book on Firefly, but wanted ( for some reason ) to no longer play that part. On the DVD extras clips, he seemed ( to me) to be very proud of his role as Book, but since the show was cancelled, he wanted to move on? One reason I got that impression was that I thought he was one of the last of the BDH to sign onto the movie. Almost like he had to be talked into it. Having Book die seemed like an amicable way out for he and Joss.

But I could be all wrong here.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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I would take Ron and Alan's (I was at the 5/5 screening w/ Alan and Gina) personal statements about loving the cast, crew, characters, and story and not having wanted out (in fact, having the other actors be surprised and afraid to call/talk to them after reading the script) over rumors and random people's speculations.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Originally posted by Shiny:
I would take Ron and Alan's (I was at the 5/5 screening w/ Alan and Gina) personal statements about loving the cast, crew, characters, and story and not having wanted out (in fact, having the other actors be surprised and afraid to call/talk to them after reading the script) over rumors and random people's speculations.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Alan has been quite in demand lately, so I could understand - career wise - if he's not available to committ for future movies. But I wanna just add that I don't think Wash's death was a good move....period. I'm more than bit annoyed at the whole idea. It made no sense. It leaves Serenity w/ out a pilot, Zoe w/ out a husband and leaves a huge hole in the make up of the crew. His comedic ability and antics will make any future projects greatly lacking. Part of me hopes this has been a cruel plot twist by Joss just to see how fans would react, and that when the BDM premiers, Wash really doesn't die. Well, one can wish, right?

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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I just saw the prescreening last Thursday, and I have to agree totally. We were SO upset that Wash was killed; his death did not seem to make any sense whatsoever....as for Joss having to kill people off in all of his series, I just don't think it was necessary. Not EVERYTHING has to have death as a result!!!

Our group won't even talk about it; we're all so upset that it's doubtful we will go see it in Sept.- unless he changes it so that Wash does not have to die. We're hoping this was just a test. Book's death did make sense, and while heartbreaking was understandable and acceptable to further the plot.
Just my two cents - YMMV.

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Originally posted by Shiny:
But I wanna just add that I don't think Wash's death was a good move....period. I'm more than bit annoyed at the whole idea. It made no sense. It leaves Serenity w/ out a pilot, Zoe w/ out a husband and leaves a huge hole in the make up of the crew. His comedic ability and antics will make any future projects greatly lacking. Part of me hopes this has been a cruel plot twist by Joss just to see how fans would react, and that when the BDM premiers, Wash really doesn't die. Well, one can wish, right?

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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