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BIKISDAD

Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:11 PM

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Originally posted by embers:

in fact I would have been happy if the whole two hours would have been just that.
Maybe Universal Pictures wouldn't have been so happy, but I would have.

Heh, heh. Many years ago, there was this little movie called "My Dinner With Andre" that consisted of just two guys sitting in a restaurant talking about "life" for two hours. It was fascinating, and it wasn't written as well as Joss could have written something like that. Yes, I'd also love to see a movie of all nine of our BDH's just having a nice long dinner conversation. That would be heaven.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

DEANNAMAY

Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:53 PM

Most likely, after about 15 minutes, Jayne would say something just a little bit inappropriate, Mal would have him attend to his mouth and a food fight would arise. Simon and Inara would be looking at each other like "here we go again, and I am here again why?" Book,Kaylee and Wash would be attempting to calm people down. Jayne would be defending himself against Mal and his second when River decides to join in on father/Mal's side. Simon of course, would be at his sisters side instantly. Kaylee seeing Jayne mess up her man's usual neatly wardrobed self decides this might not be such a bad thing. Wash joins his wife with a really fierce brow wiping towel. Book decides to let the children play. Ending scene, Jayne grumbling to himself about being ganged up on as he mops up a very messy dining area. Loser gets to clean.

CANDRA

Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:48 PM

I respectfully disagree with your premise. I think that the "show down" at Mr. Universe's was a necessary segment: you had the Aliance (one set of bad guys) versus the Reevers (another set of bad guys) and our crew represented the independent, "little guy" who always gets stuck in the middle while he tries his best to do what is right. It also became an emotion-evoking window where we saw our crew battling the impossible and doing it with courage, loyalty, and love for each other. They might die, but they would die a family. As for the scene in the basement, it came down to classic good versus evil and the one-man fight is one of the time-honored ways of showing it. Granted, Mr. Universe wasn't my favorite character, but he was a vehicle who got the movie to that last show down. Anyway, that's my opinion. I loved the sneak preview we just saw in Charlotte and was only upset twice (those of you who have seen a sneak peek know the two times I got upset - I don't want to spoil it for the rest of you.)

Candra

CARDIE

Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:03 PM

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I totally loved the explanation of the creation of the Reavers (one of the plots from Firefly that most needed explaining IMO).

YES!!!

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I had believed from Day #1 of Firefly that the Reavers were an Alliance experiment gone wrong, rather than just a bunch of folks who went crazy living too far out in the black. The fact that Reaver sounded so much like River always seemed to be a clue from Joss that the Alliance had a dangerous habit of screwing with people's heads.

Cardie

CALCULATRIX

Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by embers:

I felt that maybe Joss felt it would be more disrespectful to have the BDHs ignore Mr. U's sacrifice & death....
and leave us with the feeling that there may be some huge backstory (a history of the Serenity crew working with Mr. U in the past, so they've been friends for a long time even though we never got to see any of it). A backstory we might be told someday in comics...wood cuts or interpretive dance.

I don't think that's necessarily true.

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A simple mention of Mr. Universe probably would have sufficed and I think it was made amply clear to non-fans that Wash, in particular, was an essential part of this core family and implying that Mr. Universe was just as important to the BDH's as Book and Wash is just plain wrong and confusing

On the other hand, I really liked the story too. It was in a number of ways different from how the show worked, but it should be- it's an entirely different medium. It's the same reason Peter Jackson reorganized The Two Towers from how it was split up in the book- some things work on screen and some just don't, and it's a surefire mark of an amature when you see a perfect adaptation of anything into a movie that doesn't quite work on the big screen.

EMBERS

Monday, June 27, 2005 11:05 AM

Calculatrix: wrong and confusing to Fireflyflans, but would look appropriate to people seeing 'Serenity' without having watched the series....

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In regards to just the movie, as a stand alone, Mr. U was apparently as important as Book (of course that isn't true to us...but even we don't know the entire history, there are a lot of years we know nothing about, maybe Mr. U has a history w/the BDHs we haven't been told about ... yet).

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