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Sci-fi (US) picks up Firefly

POSTED BY: WhoIsRiver
UPDATED: Friday, July 8, 2005 07:29
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Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:19 PM

I think you really can't do much better than placing it on the same night as BSG which is hailed by critics and already being brought back for a new full season in mid july, so people will be tuning in, the commercials will cross reference and set up interest in firefly and if they replay, maybe bsg will now be followed again by firefly, and I think the pairing of them would be great, both play on less contrived cheesy elements and both have great actors. I hope sci fi is thinking about its recent success with bsg and thinking, hmmm, now there's a quality show with some similarities and hmmm atlantis isn't just for sure going to make it and stargate is going to end eventually, what if serenity the movie is a success, we sure want to hold on to friday night, let's see if firefly might not be a great addition to friday nights and possibly see about bringing back the series. . . hmmmm.

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Friday, June 17, 2005 3:03 AM

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Originally posted by BONNIET:
Oh sure, NOW they pick it up. They were offered FF way back when!


I'm sure they aren't paying US$2Million per episode, which is what FOX paid for each ep after the US$12Million pilot.

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Friday, June 17, 2005 9:13 AM

I don't see why they don't just make a Serenity TV series spinoff from the Movie. Then it becomes a whole new show. How can they stop them from doing that?

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Friday, June 17, 2005 1:01 PM

I think you have a very good point about a 'Serenity' show. I'm rather convinced Universal (and Joss) are trying very hard to 'rebrand' Firefly - the more people refer to it as 'Serenity' and the fewer that call it 'Firefly', the more obvious it is that it's a different show. There are already licensing agreements for such things as roleplaying games that are EXCLUSIVE to Serenity, NOT Firefly.

If the licensing agreements can be exclusive to the movie, why not a series that is 'based on the movie' and not the original Firefly TV show?

Course, it would mean we'd all have to get used to calling it Serenity instead :)

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Friday, June 17, 2005 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
Actually, most of what killed Firefly was gorram fox's short-sighteness with regard to their commitment to their sports contracts and pitiful scheduling practices (someone said something about a monkey?). Same thing that killed "Space: Above and Beyond," among others that never got a chance to get a second breath. They don't earn the title "serial killer of quality programming" for nothing.




BRAVO! Well said Channy darlin'.

You hit it right on the head. The time slot may not have been the best, but Fox's lack of commitment, their impatience for ratings, and their commitment to baseball is what killed Firefly.

Fox has never been much on Sci Fi, as Channy pointed out w/ the example of Space Above and Beyond. Fox just doesn't seem to get sci fi, and all they can see is dollar signs and ratings. Nothing else matters if it does not pay off immediately.


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In all actuality, the BDM shouldn't exist, and this cancelled series should be airing on Sci-Fi at 1:00AM on a Sunday. At least with it taking over Andromeda's time slot, there's some hope that sci-fi fans will get a chance to see what all the fuss is about.



Joss said as much himself. The show was ignored, neglected and abandoned by Fox. Everyone said it was over, to "get over it". Everyone said that no way would she ever fly again. Funny thing about us Browncoats, we just don't give up. We seem to like taking on the impossible.

So, here we are more than two years after cancellation. We got the show on DVD. We have a movie and merchandise being released. Our beloved show will be shown at the beginning of the Sci Fi Friday line up kicking off new episodes of SG1, SG Atlantis & BSG. Odds are fans of those shows may tune in to catch Firefly. Certainly many of them have heard of it, even if they have somehow managed to not see it. This is a great opportunity for us to net some more fans.


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Non-sci-fi fans won't go anywhere near this series anyway. They so much as see the words "science" and "fiction" put together and they run off screaming some nonsense about the sky falling--rather the way some Christians do when they hear the word "Wicca."



I agree. Odds are that non sci fi fans will stir clear of Firefly, especially w/ it on the Sci Fi channel.


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I'm more interested in grabbing the Star Wars audience - those poor souls whose culture is being hit by the fact that the film portion of their lives is pretty much done unless Lucas decides to be benevolent and license the rights over to somebody else. And the Star Trek audience, whose culture was heniously betrayed with format manipulation and sub-standard writing.



Yep. Those are the fans we want to rope in if we can. With Star Trek off of television and the Star Wars movies over with, those fans will be looking for something new to look forward to. May as well be Serenity.


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This is also a chance for us to point some sci-fi minded friends in the direction of the series. Chances are, if you're like me, your hook-line-and-sinker copy of the DVDs is already loaned out someplace, half of your personal copy is out someplace else (I never let more than two discs out of my house at once), and you've got a couple other people asking, "would I like it?" when you rave on about it. Now, at least, you can let them know they can catch it on Fridays. Even if it means letting their digital recording system capture it for another opportunity, it's a start.



Very true Channy. This is a unique opportunity for us to recruit a whole new legion of fans. There are enough of them out there. With Firefly showing on Sci Fi from July on up until the release of the BDM it will give the newly initiated the unique opportunity of going to the BDM w/ the series still fresh in their minds.


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So enough with the "Eyore" aspect, dong ma? As far as I'm concerned, that cup is still half full!



Amen to that la

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Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:14 PM

Browncoat1 ive promoted you to General

yay for sci-fi i predict it will itleast double the fanbase i forsee many more browncoats getting on this site in what shall be known as the 2nd wave after july 22


Razel

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Monday, June 20, 2005 4:57 AM


If you became a fan through the DVDs and never saw the eps on TV you missed a small but fun bonus. Hopefully, SF will play the narratives provided by Ron Glass and Nathan Fillion at the beginning of each show that was televised. "Here's how it is..."

Personally, I was disappointed that they were not a bonus feature on the DVDs. Enjoy!
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Monday, June 20, 2005 7:17 PM

WHOOO!

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Monday, June 20, 2005 8:03 PM

News about the cost of rights from thefutoncritic.com:

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FIREFLY (FOX) - Sci Fi Channel's off-network acquisition of the series, which was first reported back in May, reportedly is valued at $450,000 per episode. The news means that Sci Fi will pay about $6.75 million for the 15 produced hours of the series, three of which never aired on FOX. "Firefly's" run begins on the network on Friday, July 22 at 7:00/6:00c.


That's a pretty hefty cost for a show that's been off of TV and has been watched again and again on DVD. SciFi must have a lot of faith in the series, which is great.

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Monday, June 20, 2005 11:26 PM

The other great thing is Scifi has had crap shows for the last five years Stargates ok battlestar sux basically i think Sci-fi will put alot of money into firefly even if the movie doesnt do good and will pay for the show to continue i mean this is the network that ran 4 seasons of LEXX

Basically firefly is safe with Sci-fi it has a home now.



Razel

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