UN Inspectors Told To Leave Iraq Immediately

POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Monday, May 10, 2004 04:48
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HAKEN

Monday, March 17, 2003 10:42 AM

Well, this is probably the first real sign that an attack on Iraq is imminent. I was gonna say something, but right now, I'm kinda at a lost for words. And maybe a bit freaked because many people from my state is over there.

KAYTHRYN

Monday, March 17, 2003 4:49 PM

I know how you feel Haken. Simply freaked out. I got a call about two hours ago from my best friend who is in the Navy. She is only now 18, and she can't swim-- so of course she had to go into the navy. She said she was at some airport, with her bullet proof vest on, waiting in line to get shipped over to Kuwait. The war just doesn't seem real until you get a call like that.

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Jayne: Hey, I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

MANIACNUMBERONE

Monday, March 17, 2003 6:59 PM

Don't worry too much yet. The war isn't going full swing until they call over the doctors. My brother is a captain doctor in the Air Force. He hasn't gone over yet.

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Who's winning?
I don't know, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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CHANNAIN

Monday, March 17, 2003 7:29 PM

it's daunting, isn't it, to think about going to war. i don't know that i ever thought i would see it in my lifetime. don't ask me why. one thing humans know how to do well is fight. i pray every chance i get for everyone over there and for those who could get called up. my friend's husband is in the reserves, but hasn't been called up yet.

sidebar: my dad can't swim a lick either, but he joined the Navy when he was 17. why? "W'll anyone could get into the army." he and his brother both had to swim one length of a swimming pool in order to get in. my uncle jumped as far as he could (about half the length) and sort of furiously wiggled the rest of the way. they were both engineers, dad on deisel engines and my uncle in the CBs. neither of them ever learned to swim.

still walkin and talkin

HJERMSTED

Monday, March 17, 2003 8:59 PM

There was a movement afoot a week or two ago to convince the Pope to travel to Baghdad and remain there as a human shield until such time as GW and Blair turned down the testosterone poisoning.

Man that would have been cool. As much as I disagree with the Pope's archaic worldview, such an action would have spoken volumes about this war madness swirling around us. Alas, I believe he was far too frail for such a journey.

Peace,
mattro

CHANNAIN

Monday, March 17, 2003 9:03 PM

he is awfully frail. maybe one of his representatives? it just seems to all be careening out of control. something's got to be done about that lunatic and it seems like the U.S. gets to be the big and bad. interesting that the youngest country in the world is now caretaker of everyone else. somebody's gotta, i guess.

still walkin and talkin... and prayin

WULFHAWK

Monday, March 17, 2003 11:04 PM

considering europe ignored the growing signs of previous world wars (as did we, US), I find this kind of proactive attitude heartening. we are not really 'careening out of control', as we were in the second world war. this is more like serving a high risk warrant; you gotta make damn sure you're ready for anything from the bad guys.

remember, it is likely more people will die on US highways this year than will be casualties in this war.

tanstaafl

SARAHETC

Monday, March 17, 2003 11:52 PM

I agree with Wulf.

And though war, in general, is bad, I fail to see how anyone could want Saddam Hussein to stay in power.

I fail to see how anyone could be against the liberation of oppressed peoples.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

MERLINDREA

Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by Sarahetc:

I fail to see how anyone could be against the liberation of oppressed peoples.

The problem is that this war is NOT about freeing the people there - or has anybody taken notice 15 years ago when Saddam killed thousands of Kurds? No - around this time Saddam was still considered an Ally, even by the US. Mr. Rumsfeld himself traveled down and shook his hand as a friend!!!

This war is about oil - make no mistake. And the people in Europe are afraid that it is the beginning of a third world war. After all, there are no good plans for the Iraq after Saddam. Yes, democracy would be great, but it might end up in just a new crisis - moslems against democracists, Iraqis against Kurds (and don't forget the Turks who have their own big Kurd problem!).

Just look towards Afghanistan. US has promised so much, but just left the mess to the European governments. Right now, the US is not keeping promises to give money to schools, hospitals etc there. It does not even help to keep the peace, this is done by European armies again. And what peace? Only in Kabul and even that is not considered safe. How do you want to secure a much bigger country?

I think one of two things will happen: Either this war will be a 'success' in a sense that only Iraqis die, and no or only few US Americans. If that happens, Bush will rush into the next country on his list, no matter what. Or it will be a second Vietnam - with a little Israel/Palestina touch...

Merl
*very frustrated and frightened*

SARAHETC

Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:16 AM

I fail to see, also, what's wrong with a war for oil.

Oil is energy. Energy is creation. And creation is the heart of humanity.

It might not be pretty or p.c., but this could and probably will come out a win for all involved. The U.S. and the rest of the western hemisphere gets oil, Iraqis and Kurds get free, and little by little, dictatorships are destabilized.

Liberation takes time and responsibility and committment. Afghanistan isn't going to prosper like Missouri after a year. Get crucial. Instantaneous change never lasts and often does more harm than good. A society that eases itself into a democratic or better yet, republican form of government has the best chance of lasting and prospering.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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