Caite is completely wrong - jasonzzz *NOT* a disgusting pornographer - definitely not troll

POSTED BY: Jasonzzz
UPDATED: Thursday, July 17, 2025 17:46
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Look here, you have read some pretty vile accusations apparently about some pictures that I posted. It looks like there was quite a big misunderstanding as far as what I'd posted and what people had seen. Here's how it goes. Some sites play tricks and do switcheroo on you, when you look at the pictures from another site that doesn't have the right cookie, they serve up different pictures - sometimes to trick you and shock you...

I had the misfortune of using a STFU pic that did this. It was suppose to show you this, which was what about 80% of the people who read it saw:


( ask me about the context of why this STFU pic was invoked in the first place please! Before you go metal storm on me, tie me to the stake and burn me like Caite did. Thanks Caite! )


However, about 10 - 20% of the time, apparently the viewer saw something else. Pretty vile if you don't know the context of those pictures. Actually pretty vile still even if you do know.

Note the percentages are just from what I had sampled. I hit all 15 of pictures (the servers that served the various STFU pictures that I used) about 25000 each from about 10 different client locations - these were all cacheless fetches. I actually only got it about 25% of the time at only 2 of the client sites. The other 8 I didn't get any in all of those 25k fetches. So if you did see it, I am sorry, I don't know if you were just unlucky or what.

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(note: added this after Misguided By Voices ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?u=4158 )commented that the above is nothing but *techno-babble* to s/him)

As for the "techno-babble" that you referred to as the full explanation to what happened, here's a lay-man's breakdown:

1. I posted a series of URL links of STFU pics on a particular posts.

2. The people who run one of the servers of the STFU pics apparently likes to play jokes and switches out the pictures for some of the people.

3. Some of the people did not see the STFU pic, they saw something else entirely. Note I did not post the things you guys had seen.

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This is the offending link. You can piece it back together again if you like. Be forewarned, you might not like what you see at all...

(the offending link ... http:// www.thethirteenthstep.com/stfu/wheel-stfu. j p g )

Anyways, what people saw was a collage of goatse... If you are not familiar with this piece of internet folklore. And it really has been around for a long while. Wikipedia has a clear explanation... Be prepared, even the explanation is graphic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse.cx

Here's a somewhat "clean" tribute to the goatse "art"
http://sam.zoy.org/fun/goatse/


So, to Caite, StarPilot, and ChrisIsAll, my complete apologies that you had to learn about goatse from my misfortune.

I don't know how else to say it. I didn't know exactly how to take it when I saw the results - I'm not exactly shocked by it after all these years. I've known of this netlore for probably about 8 years now? I think... It was 97 or 98 when I had a really bad bout of spam emails and some of the first ones had links to the very original goatse website. It was pretty damn creepy when I first had that experience, that lasted for almost the entire summer... Yikes. That was also when I stopped listing my real address and any identifying info in my internic records.


If you needed an apology, that was it. I am still very adamant that I did nothing wrong in posting - I have no intention of exposing anyone to that kind of vileness, but I do wholeheartedly apologize that you had to see it. I am sickened that Caite would burn me at the stake - accusing me that I posted those vile pictures, and even now knowing that I had no intention of posting that kind of picture would still withhold a complete apology for torching first and asking questions later (actually never asked questions, I am pretty sure s/he s

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Telling people to STFU is not the way a decent person argues. It's rude, disrespectful, adds nothing and is trolling at its most basic. How long you've been here is irrelevent. You have no moral high ground to stand on so why you're even searching for it is beyond me.

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Yeah, I admit, it is rude and mean. I admit it would be shocking if you walked into the pool hall and expected to see people sitting cordially drinking lemonade and playing tinkly-winks. But people walked into a Real World Discussion where half the idiotic participants trade ad-hominem insults and completely non-sensical back-and-forths.

That was why a completely different section in this website called Real World Discussion was created because there were people here who couldn't contain themselves for what reason or another when they are discussing these "Real World Events" - *AND* other more gentle people no longer wanted to read those things. The STFU was in response to someone who couldn't argue his ground and started an ad-hominem by calling me a jackass. I've tried dancing around those things before - it doesn't work. I got tired of dancing around it. No, I'm not going to dance around this one either and say that it was all fine and dandy.

and I know that there are people who had never cursed one breath in their lives - I don't know any personally but I figured there might be. I am not one of those, I do use it. But I don't initiate attacks on other people.


But you are also acting like it's okay to brand someone a pornographer just because they were rude in the local poolhall. I think not.

I am not searching for any kind of moral high ground, all I want is the truth to be told - and a complete apology. Granted Caite didn't know what was going on when s/he saw those things. But even now, when the truth is here; there is no apologies. This isn't how things work. What you are telling me is that only someone completely virtuous - maybe Mother Theresa - can have the truth revealed and just compensation when they've been wronged.

I don't think we have that kind of twisted rules there even in England.


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If you examine the containing directory ( http://www.thethirteenthstep.com/stfu/ ) you can see the offending files (I recommend *NOT* clicking on them if you are faint of heart, they are quite nasty); I'm willing to believe that the site occasionally redirects image requests as a practical joke, although I haven't done the experiment myself.

Jason, can you remove any links to that web site in your posts, and refrain from linking to that site in the future?

In fact, it would be nice if everyone could go easy on linking directly to large images or lots of images from within threads, since 'popular' threads take long enough to load as it is.

Also, even in the Real World Events forum, everyone should keep in mind Haken's posting policy, stated at the top of the page when you post a reply: "While we have an open policy concerning messages, please be civil when responding to others."

Thanks.



Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
I am not searching for any kind of moral high ground, all I want is the truth to be told - and a complete apology. Granted Caite didn't know what was going on when s/he saw those things. But even now, when the truth is here; there is no apologies. This isn't how things work.

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I don't know what you need an apology for. While the pictures may not have been intentional, they represent a reckless disregard for good taste and civilized discourse caused by your own failed effort to be rude and vulgar.

For my part, I accept your explanation and apology but I still admonish you to avoid the underlying poor behaivor that CAUSED this whole business in the first place. You can disagree with people without resulting to "STFU" type language.

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The post that I saw had BOTH the goatse AND the STFU posts. If it was a just simple case of "redirection", only one set would have shown up- right?

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We all can understand how mistakes can be made.
It's just that a touch of humility would go a long way, IMHO.

Been known to be rude sometimes hisself Chrisisall

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I can and I have tried that. I'll take that tidbit again though. But please note that these are the very same familiar people who go off on their first responses with "jackasses" this and "jerkoff" that. You can kindly admonish those people too or is it just an exclusive club in admonishing Jason today?

There are lots of very similarly poor behavior, if we are basing and passing judgement today purely on poor behavior or even repeatedly poor ones, then let pass me the torch and I'll tie myself up and burn myself at stake. As long as the club expands its membership to many numerous other on our little "gang of four" here.

We can start with some of these other posts:

Ah, the ever useful STFU, gosh, other people use it too?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=9210&m=125870#124996

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Your post hardly is worth a reply, but I'm going to anyway. When you have taken care of Terri for EIGHT YEARS- diapering her, feeding her, bathing her, amusing her- as her husband did- THEN you can come back and call him "evil". Until you've done that, shut the f*ck up.

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This one is rather violent...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=9210&m=125870#125003

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Originally posted by Knibblet:

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"I'm gonna rip you a new puppet hole, bitch!"

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Now, it's just not only personal, it's about the board member's mother!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=9210&m=125870#125145

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Originally posted by Connorflynn:


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According to Signym "IT'S NOT OK" to whack or interrogate terrorist bastards who kill people (because we may humiliate them or further anger them ) but it's ok to starve someone to death based on SOMEONE ELSES word even though there were NO OTHER MOTHER F'ing witnesses!!!!!

What a crock of shit.

Conscience just give it up, all the liberal douchebags on these boards are a bunch of hacks.

I think I get it now..the new "Progressive Credo"

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I wonder how many people would cry out in anger and dismay from the liberal douchebag wing if we were to STARVE TO DEATH an animal, because "THEIR OWNER" said that the animal wouldn't want to live that way.

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That's a nice string of rather colourful language.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=9210&m=125870#125173

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Originally posted by Connorflynn:

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I'm begging you to pack and move to Canada to live with all the other tree-hugging capitalism hating ass blasting dirt munchers.

I'll continue to have compassion for those who deserve it and those who don't can kiss my ass.

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Political *and* descriptive from witlesschum:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=9210&m=125870#125303

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Originally posted by witlesschum:

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And if anyone wants to call me a godless, commie, heathen leftwing bleeding heart fuckhead, well I'm proud of it. Elitist might not be ok, though I do hope to one day make enough money to be an elitist liberal.

Dan

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Or how about this one - describing a conversation Xed had with our very own SergeantX:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=1248

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Originally posted by xed:

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According to some people on this forum, like the out-of-control character assassin SergeantX, Firefly was *the* perfect show. No faults. No flaws. And the only reason these people (like the rabid name-caller SergeantX) can give for Firefly's failure is that everyone in America is apparently an idiot -- except SergeantX, of course.

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Here is SergeantX's closely reasoned response:
"`Put up or shut up?' How about f*ck you? How about you quit trying to pretend your [sic] intelligent and go away?"
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I

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