Thoughts on EPISODE III ***SPOILERS***
POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Monday, June 20, 2005 07:52
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I assume that the word was put about that Anakin (or "someone") had killed Padme so Anakin would assume the babies had died too and wouldn't look to track them down. Maybe it was Palpatine's way of saying you've no way back now.
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Originally posted by maugwai:
Except that that's exactly how Hitler came to power. The Emperor's troops are called "storm troopers" after all. I'd say the Emperor is heavily based on Hitler. He completely convinced an entire nation that Jews were bad and had actively taken up arms against the government. The Emperor convinced the Senate that the Jedi had done the same.
True - Lucas ripped every turn of his story from either history or other stories, but he forgot that you have to make it scan.
Phantom Menace and Attack of the Crap worked to an extent because they had the feel of slow build up, but the pay off wasn't right. With Hitler he took years to rise up and was able to use economic conditions to his advantage - the Republic appeared all shiny and economically on the up.
Lucas asked the audience to make far too big a leap for him - better writing, less convuluted plotting and a slightly more complex shadowing of Hitler's rise to power might have worked.
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Originally posted by manwithpez:
One other thought, but is Luke the one the Jedi prophecies speak of, or did Anakin actually bring balance to the Force...If it was Anakin, then I'm not sure that the prophecy was correct. What did he do, besides help with a little of the killing...The Clone Troopers did all the real dirty work...
If someone has already made this point forgive me but I didn't read everyone's post. The chosen one was to destroy the Sith according to Obi-Wan and Mace Windu. Anakin did destroy the Sith...remember...it never said he couldn't join them 1st.
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I wanted to like this movie. I had my expectations lowered. I was going to give it every chance possible.
But it was just terrible. The occasional bright spot (Anakin being dismembered, Yoda's fight scene, the four lightsabres against one battle) but everything else was a car wreck. Just appalling.
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I hear you, Simon. Did you try making Monty Python references? It helped me and a couple of my friends make it through the movie with some enjoyment.
"One day, lad, all this will be yours ..."
"What - the curtains?"
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Well, I haven't been posting here much lately, but I gotta say I liked it, especially the Obi-wan - Anakin verbal confrontation at the end. Lot's of very powerful moments. But it wasn't perfect. The Death Star timeline issue bugged me some, since Death Star 2 was 2/3 built 4 years after Episode 4, but the die-hard fans are saying it might just be a prototype. Also, I didn't like the way the battle droids spoke to each other in the first half; it really didn't make sense. But overall, a good movie.
Parallels besides Hitler:
Roman Republic to Roman Empire:
Augustus Caesar was able to become a dictator because the Romans were worn down from a ruinous civil war, like the Clone Wars in here.
Oedipus:
Like Oedipus, when Anakin tried to avoid his what was predestined (Padme's death) he made it come true.
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Does it make me a bad person that I laughed when Anikin was just a stump of burning flesh with no arms and legs? Cuz I did laugh. 
I thought it was really sad how Padime died though. That she had lost the will to live. Very sad and sweet.
But the rest of the movie was really bad. The effects were okay, like usual. I thought the robot general was pretty cool. But the story line was terrible! The worst of the Star Wars movies
"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FREAKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damnit." ~Joss
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Agree with the whole, "good to see Mayhew working again" thread! it's a pity they wipe his..... Oooh! Not spoiling it for anyone am I?
I met the real Darth Vader as a child, I was 11, it was 1978, he was dressed as Darth and opened our town fete! His name was Prowse! Later to become Green Cross Code Man! Now that's a duty you wouldn't expect many Sith Lords to undertake! Safety whilst crossing the road does not a Sith Lord make!
But I was shocked to find that 'ole Darth had a westcountry accent! It threw me for many months until I realised the horrible truth - that voice and person were not the same! Prowses voice as Vader was not his own.
However! The one thing I do know is that the fete opening with a westcountry Darth Vader was far better than Star Wars 3! Enough said!
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Well, I saw SW III tonight. I have a mixed reaction to it. I liked some parts, the majority I didn't much care for. The movie as a whole was too long, my rear was much too sore for a mediocre movie.
The parts I liked:
R2D2 was hilarious through most of it. Loved his parts. 
The light-saber fights were awesome. 
More Ewan hotness...lol 
Fantastic Four trailer, Batman Begins trailer, Mr. & Mrs. Smith trailer.
The parts I didn't like:
No Serenity trailer, though I watched SW III at the same theater that showed it before HGTTG.
The dialogue was just horrible. I expected horrible dialogue but it was even worse than I expected. I know SW isn't about the dialogue and it was somewhat the acting as well in this part. Ewan could have delivered some of his lines better, as could many of the actors. But mainly it was how the dialogue was written. The movie might have done better with no dialogue at all (not really but it made me somewhat wish for that at times). 
The timeline screwups. What was the significance of the little girl at Padme's funeral? They made a point of showing her, but who was she? No explaination and we're left wondering. How could Leia remember her mother's laughter and other such things if Padme died in childbirth? Was Leia mixing up Bail's wife and Padme when talking to Luke in ROTJ?
I do not understand how Anakin caught on fire in the lava pit. I didn't see if a spark landed on him (that's the only thing I can think of that would set him ablaze). I mean that whole time Obi and him were riding (presumably) hot metal things down the lava flow, neither caught on fire. And if it was just by proximatey (sp?) that Ani caught on fire, then both of them should have been burnt to crisps long before that scene.
Alright now on to a possible solution to other comments made in this thread about the Death Star. Consider this:
The Death Star is a new concept even for that era. It will undoubedly take a long time to build. Look at the International Space Station for a real life example. It has taken the countries building it a long time to finish it and it still is not complete and there are numerous problems with those parts that are completed. Granted it hasn't been 20 years since they actually started construction on it, but it has been close to 10 years and they aren't done yet. So I can see how building the first Death Star could take 20 years and the building the second was much quicker because they already had the know how from building the first.
Just some random thought on the movie:
The wookies. That part was ok. Though I would have liked to see Han in there as well. Since there is only a 20 year difference, then Han could have been as old as 20 in Ep III. We aren't really told how old he is in the Original Trilogy. He looked old enough to be 40. Chewie without Han just isn't right. 
Think my ramblings have gone on long enough. 
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I was wondering the same thing about the little girl at padme's funeral. Who could that be?
I did a google search: "Padme's funeral" "little girl"
This web site is the only result that came up without the words "cried like a little girl" in it.
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