Lost - Season Finale - What Did You Think?

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GWEK

Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:02 PM

Both Danielle AND Ethan have tried to take Turniphead separately, it would seem, when Claire was pregnant.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think there's any actual evidence that The Others made any attempt to get the baby or that Ethan was one of The Others.

BIKISDAD

Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:19 PM

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Definately have been hearing mechanical sounds from the guardian from the beginning, and especially last night. Weird since black, wispy non-corporeal beings and machinery don't really go well together. I agree with the assumption that the machinery is underground.

The first thing that popped into my head when I saw the black smoke accompanying the machine sounds was "diesel exhaust!" It may be a mundane explanation, but it's certainly a very plausible explanation. Which reminds me.... Where did "The Others" get a boat and gasoline to run it....huh?

Have fun tonight, you lucky people who managed to score tickets...!

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PLACIDITY

Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:30 PM

My thoughts.

Lost finale was great!
Even though I saw the whole Walt being taken thing coming a mile off....it was still really good.

The flashback looked eerie, I believe Danielle heard voices about the kidnapping and helped free her from Ethan's hold. She has survived for 16 years on her own - so I am sure the Others do not want to f* with her.

The boat was driven by a female, could or could not be Alex. We no nothing of the Others, except they came from the same ship as Danielle. Its easy to see that their boat used to kidnap Walt was likely a small transport boat used by the researches for shallower waters-transporting to beaches-etc.

My theory is that prior to the sickness Danielle talks about, they salvaged all they could. Meaning the small boat, gasoline/diesel, batteries etc. Danielle likely took the battery's after one of her fights with the Others. As she is solo and they are a group they likely held on to the boat and diesel.

Not sure if the Other's know about Black Rock? Otherwise why haven't they raided it themselves. Black Rock looked to be a prisoner ship from England heading to Austrailia. Its shape shows to be older than that period of time, but likely it just like owning an old caddy now (classic are in use until they are in-disrepair).

Sorry for the rant but one more point.
The security system is likely a machine...the smoke that Jack saw was the exhaust coming out as it steamed off. Locke obviously got a look at something, meaning that it camoflauges itself with the scenery but not the sky (as he was looking up at it?) There was a chain around his left leg pulling him into the hole. the hole appeared out of no where, logically this could easily be associated with the buried container they openened at the end.

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GWEK

Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:08 PM

Do we know that The Others are from Rosseau's group? I thought she said that all of her group died, leading me to believe that The Others are a totally different faction.

Also, I could be mistaken, but everyone on the boat looked kind of old, so none of them are Alex (who would be 16, unless there's something mucking with passage of time).

I really don't have a legitimate guess as to what's going on, but I think that Walt, Hurley, and fatherood are key elements.

Most of the characters either have issues with their fathers (Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Walt, Locke, Jin, Sun), absent fathers (Hurley, Boone, Shannon, Claire, and Aaron), or both. We don't know about Sayid, Charlie and Michael. Not sure what that means exactly, but I think it might be important.

Clearly, Walt's got something psychic going on, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a connection with both Locke and Hurley. Not only do Locke and Walt bond, but Locke's mother uses some of the same phrases to describe him that are used for Walt. With Hurley, we have a guy who was in an insane asylum, which, anyone who watches X-files and the like knows, is where all the good psychics wind up.

I think the exchange between Hurley and Walt on the place is significant, as is the Flash comic passing hands. I feel almost like Hurley WAS somehow responsible for the crash, but Walt is responsible for some of the island wackiness.

I know some folks have suggested that the island is basically a test environment. If that's the case, perhaps the The Others removed Walt because they figured he might mess with the experiment? That wouldn't explain why they wanted Aaron, but, as I said, I don't know that they really DID want Aaron, or if that was just what folks assumed.

Just a little babbling as I try to make things make sense for myself.

DANFAN

Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:27 PM

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We no nothing of the Others, except they came from the same ship as Danielle.

I disagree with this. In the episode where Danielle was introduced, as she was babbling to Sayid about how she and her shipmates were returning from the Black Rock when "the Others came" and then her shipmates got sick. "The Others must have been carriers." I think Danielle's group was castaways like the survivors of Flight 815. I think the Others preyed on her group just like they have preyed on the new crop of survivors.

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Not sure if the Other's know about Black Rock? Otherwise why haven't they raided it themselves. Black Rock looked to be a prisoner ship from England heading to Austrailia. Its shape shows to be older than that period of time, but likely it just like owning an old caddy now (classic are in use until they are in-disrepair).

In last night's episode, one of the characters (Locke?) said that the Black Rock looked like a slaver ship from Africa. I suppose it could have been a mistake on the part of the character. But if it was intended as misdirection, why bother? They could have said nothing and left the audience in the dark. Hence I tend to believe what the character said.

LETOV

Friday, May 27, 2005 12:23 PM

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I thought the episode was okay, but I was really hoping more would be revealed. Instead we just got the old string-along again.
The same sort of thing used to be said about X-Files. Then they did start revealing more and I lost interest.

They do have to leave themselves enough to get through another season too, after all.

With the X-files I think the problem was that even the writers didn't know where they were going, and so when they started revealing stuff, that became obvious. If Lost is the same way, I'd rather know now.

I'm not saying they had to reveal everything, but I can't think of anything even remotely big they revealed in that last episode. The biggest I could find was 'where did the comic come from?'

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In the end this finale really pissed me off. I admit, I'm not a fan of the ole stringalong. I like to feel at least closure on something at the end of a season. It really annoyed me that we went through the entire season grasping for the next clue only to be left with more questions than ever without really learning anything significant at all.
I find the X-Files comparison interesting. One of the things that I always thought was good about the x-files was that while there was an on-going mystery to be revealed, all-in-all the episodes stood on their own and told a story. The ongoing story was not the focus, so the episodes still felt complete and satisfying even if nothing but new questions were presented.
At this point in Lost however, I'm starting to just feel strung along from episode to episode without any kind of completion at all. The two hour finale could have just as easily been two one-hour episodes and would have been completely in fitting with the rest of the season.
Still, I gues as finale's to a season go the cliff-hanger is the norm. But with a season like this, where the entire season is driving a single storyline, not really episodic at all, the implication was that everything was pushing towards the season finale. Instead, it just appears that we're being dragged until the series finale and that if we want to really learn anything at all that's when it will be. I'm just not sure I can keep my interest that long. Next season I may just wait for the DVD.

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

GWEK

Friday, May 27, 2005 1:34 PM

I sort of assumed that the Black Rock (who names a ship Black ROCK?) was there to underscore that these are not the first folks who've ended up on the island under unusual circumstances.

So far, we have at least four groups of people who appear to have come to the island NOT under their own power (our heroes, Danielle's crew, the crew of the Black Rock, and the heroine smugglers).

My guess is that the mention of slavery was to point out to the general viewing audience "this--whatever this is--has been going on for a long time."

REAVERINA1985RIVIERA

Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:45 PM

Did any one else notice the comic book the fat guy was reading after he got on the plane (during his flashback)?

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On the back there was a big angry polar bear!

Combine that with the numbers on the hatch I think the whole island and the people on it are just a dream, like the ending to St. Elsewere. The plane crashed and the dreamer (and only survivor) is in a coma.

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ECGORDON

Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:31 PM

I find that suggestion highly unlikely. If so, then almost all the scenes would have that person as the focal point, and we know that is not the case.

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SUBGUY

Monday, May 30, 2005 9:14 PM

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My thoughts on the episode:

6) The Number, the Island's ability to manipulate reality - How was the plane brought down? How could ANYONE survive a breakup at 35K feet? Why did the number confer such good/bad luck on Hurley? How was Locke healed? Not enough information...

Tentative conclusions - I think that there are two forces at work. One is the abandoned facility, its abandoned staff, their infection, and the staff's survival goals. The other is the supernatural force that can bring things to the island, heal miraculously, twist probabilities to make improbable things happen (like Hurley's lottery win and the incredible run of coincidences that made him a multimillionaire). This supernatural force might be the black smoke that sits in the driver's seat of the island's unmanned defenses.

Is anyone even sure yet that Locke has been healed supernaturally? We have yet to see WHY he is confined to a wheelchair? Is it really something physical, or is it psychosomatic? Has something in Locke's life (and the entire incident with his father and donating a kidney only to be treated like garbage again afterward could be a major contributing factor) caused him to lose the ability to walk, and the crash removed that psychological block?

Also DANFAN posted…

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In last night's episode, one of the characters (Locke?) said that the Black Rock looked like a slaver ship from Africa. I suppose it could have been a mistake on the part of the character. But if it was intended as misdirection, why bother? They could have said nothing and left the audience in the dark. Hence I tend to believe what the character said.

I'm pretty sure the ship had to be a slaver from Africa, because it seems a LOT of stuff on the island has some sort of connection to Africa. Look at the drug smuggling plane with the Nigerian maps and money? And the creators always appear to do stuff on purpose.

As for the 'security system,' I have to admit that in the finale it sounded a lot more mechanical (like the chain that pulls a rollar coaster up the first hill) than any previous episode. And the black smoke seemed to me less something non-corporeal than something half-glimpsed, like a being/creature/person who was slightly out of phase with reality.

Captain Pete

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