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* SPOILERS * Will There Be Sequels and Will Non-fans Understand *SPOILERS*

POSTED BY: Litwolf689
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Friday, May 27, 2005 12:04 PM

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Okay, now that your sure.

I know and fully support that the ultimate goal of Browncoats everywhere is to get the trilogy that could happen if Serenity does well at the box office. I went to the Serenity screening in DC last night with my mom and friend and we talked about this afterward.

We believe that, though Joss did his best to make the movie enjoyable to non-fans as well as fans, they will still be kinda confused and not might stick around for the ride. They wont understand the emotional rollercoaster us Browncoats were on when we watched this movie. Sure, they will laugh at the humor, and there is humor, but I dont think they will truly understand and appreciate what Firefly was and Serenity is.

There are many Browncoats out there so our shear (sp?) numbers and multiple screenings (Im already planning to see it 4-5 times, probably more) may still get us a trilogy but Im not sure.

Please tell me what you think.

"Two roads diverged in a wood and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW! I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damnit." ~Joss

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Friday, May 27, 2005 12:12 PM

I think you're right....partially. While there certainly isn't any way to bring the Non-fans up to speed in terms of the emotional ties that bind all BDHs together, I think the BDM does well enough to clue enough folks in as to keep them watching. Sure, not everyone will 'get it' like those here, but look for sales of the DVD to rise before and after the premier. Also take into account that SciFi Channel is scheduled to re-show the entire series, in its proper sequence.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, May 27, 2005 12:23 PM

Hey LitWolf, was great sitting with you during the movie.

I agree to an extent. I think if you look at it from the point of view not knowing the backgrounds, this is a typical "new" movie. There is some mystery as to how the group was formed - how ex-members were pulled back into the ship etc.

I think it will be a hit. I thought it blew SW Ep III out of the water. It was clever-intense-thrilling.

I thought the story will def. cause people to talk, it will HELP the word of mouth as it drives people to talk about how the plot unfolds.

There is an added benefit to us BROWNCOATS since we have the background. We have stronger ties to the characters, understand more of the motivations, but so much was new......

Remember once word of mouth spreads, more people will want to go back and watch the TV Episodes, get caught up in the series, and end up watching the movie more than once!!

fox
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Friday, May 27, 2005 1:26 PM

One of the folk I brought along knew nothing about the show and he was very impressed. In fact he is now looking forward to seeing the series.

I loved the movie, but I have to admit the epic feel of "sending the signal" felt strange. I find that I really loved the intimacy of the TV show. The family, the small scrapes & situations the crew finds themselves in.

And I know this was only a rough cut. And very very well done, my friend even commented on how polished the film looked. But I really hope they give us more time to grieve over our losses. I so want an Edmonton score during the funeral. I understand the truth & fact of Joss ripping away & killing someone we love, but I want to hurt, I wanna watch the crew fall to pieces over it. As it stands now I feel more loss over Nandi & Tracey. And that ain't right. Like I said "rough cut" just stating how I felt.

All in all I loved the movie, the humor & the action sequences were the best, classic Joss. In Joss I Trust and I know he'll do right for our grief.

The movie was a great butterfly........I just really miss the Little Damn Series.

To answer the question of this post. I sure as heck hope there are sequels, I wanna know what happens next, I wanna know "How" we keep flying. Take me back to the black & yes I plan on getting my hands on the Comics,

as for non-fans. I think they'll understand, and they will want more.

IN JOSS I TRUST.

Oh and yes I want more screenings, preferaly in the TULSA area. wouldn't mind meeting a BDH as well, I was really hoping one would have been in Dallas.



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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:00 PM

Non-fans should understand. I brought two people who had never seen the show before (and weren't huge sci-fi fans), and they absolutely loved the movie.

Assuming it makes enough money, yes...there will be sequels.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:00 PM

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Friday, May 27, 2005 3:28 PM

I saw the 5/5 screening, and it's been very interesting to me that the fans of the series have been so worried about how those going in cold would follow it. So far from all of the reports I've seen, they've done just fine.

We're the ones that are really having the problem. Even though we logically understand that the movie is not the series, emotionally we are having difficulty accepting it. Sure, newbies won't get many of the nuances, but do they need to, to enjoy the movie as a standalone experience? I don't think so.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 4:01 PM

Hi, first time here, longtime Firefly & Joss fan. I went to the 5/26 Boston screening last night. The place was wild with Firefly fans, and the screening itself was like a convention -- lots of chatting and talking and giddiness throughout the whole thing. It was unlike any movie atmosphere I've ever been to, and definitely was nice to see that 600+ people from the area turned out.

My thoughts on the films: AWESOME all the way through. I think Joss did a fantastic job of setting up the who/what/where of the story and bridging the gap for new viewers, who -- I think -- will really respond to this movie. Joss just gets it. He knows how to write and direct, and the cast, man, every one of them blew me away. So, yeah, I think it stands on its own very well and will impress the hell out of the uninitiated.

As for sequels... God I hope so. You don't suppose there's any chance, if it does really well, of bringing the show back on TV? ;-)

One last thing: Capt Mal reminded me of Han Solo on a really, really bad day. And I mean that in a good way. I'm stoked for September 30. I also think with a built-in fanbase like this, and limited competition when the movie opens, Serenity stands a very good chance of being a hit.

-Josh

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Friday, May 27, 2005 4:03 PM

P.S. About the whole thing with Wash. It broke my heart, made me gasp audibly (along with the rest of the crowd) and really drove home Joss's point: the stakes are real here. People die. It was an amazing, noble death that really moved me because I care about the character. And for that, I think Joss deserves to be commended, not criticized.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 4:12 PM

I don't think newbies will have a problem getting the general plot, although they'll miss details. The plot, though, is, in some ways, the most generic part of the movie, so some might have a "been there, seen that" reaction. The relations between the crew, also, although sketched in well, just aren't going to have the emotional weight for them that they have for us. Book's fate isn't going to make newcomers' jaws drop, for example.

I think Wash's will work on the level of shock and surprise, even if it won't churn their guts the way it did mine. Hell, after that, I felt like maybe the sequel talk was a smokescreen and everybody was going to die. It amped the gravity of the situation to ten for me. But, for the casual viewer, maybe it'll be seen as just one of the expected casualties of a genre picture, just the usual sidekick death, I don't know.

I can't believe that most people who see this won't be wowed anyway, though. It's funny, scary, moves like a bullet train, throws you into a fully imagined world, is well acted, and emotionally powerful, even if not all of the emotional depth will be there for a novice.

Whether it'll be a blockbuster or not, I can't say. I kind of doubt it. But I think it'll do well enough for a sequel, especially given DVD sales. There have been a lot of articles and books lately on the changing economics of movies. A movie like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, which did diddly in the theaters, can be a bigger money-maker for the studios than some film which did 250 mil in box office, but which had to pay for massive marketing and mega-star salaries. If Serenity sold over a million copies of the DVDs, at 40 bucks a pop, say, it would make back the cost of filming right there. It'll sell a lot more than that, IMO, especially as word spreads. So, I'm not worried about if we're getting sequels, just when.

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