Thoughts on EPISODE III SPOILERS

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NAKEDANDARTICULATE

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:31 PM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS said-
I really enjoyed this movie. I've got to say, the naysayers probably never understood what Star Wars was about in the first place.

So it was always about a horrible story and cgi effects? Why dont you go watch the original trilogy and let me know what I don't understand. I am so sick of Star Wars "fans" who blindly go along with what Lucas has done.Is this his baby? Yes,but I can still review these films right?

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MAUGWAI

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:40 PM

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Misguided By Voices wrote:
The rushed turn against the Jedi didn't make any kind of sense either. The police force of the galaxy that it appears everyone is brought up to believe is good - just seconds after the Senate are looking for a "poster boy" Jedi (yeeesh) they suddenly believe, with no evidence, the word of the most evil looking man ever - and then apparently hours or days (who knows with the screwed up timeline within the film) later nobody seems to give a flying that an entire temple of children has been slaughtered (sure, say its propaganda taking over, but the Senate itself would have known otherwise, surely).

Except that that's exactly how Hitler came to power. The Emperor's troops are called "storm troopers" after all. I'd say the Emperor is heavily based on Hitler. He completely convinced an entire nation that Jews were bad and had actively taken up arms against the government. The Emperor convinced the Senate that the Jedi had done the same.

That part I actually did believe.

(edited) Although it would have been easier to buy if we'd seen a little of people fearing the Jedi. They do that in Knights of the Old Republic, but not in the movies.(/ed)

I liked the movie all in all, but I gotta agree that that "died of a broken heart" thing was lame lame lame. Bones McKoy wouldn't put up with that kind of medical ignorance.

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LOBOHAN

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by zoid:
I got a guilty 'kick' out of the Peter Cushing impersonator (Grand Moff Tarkin, alongside Vader and Palpatine overseeing the Death Star's construction). A little heavy on his prosthetics though, don't y'all think? I wonder how the late Mr. Cushing's family feel about the caricaturization?

Actually he was played by Wayne Pygram, Scorpius from Farscape. He probably didn't need too much in the way of makeup.

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CRANSTON

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by zoid:
...But I truly thought Browncoats were more discerning than that. My only hope is that this is one of those "my movie, right or wrong" type of things that will blow over. Or at the very least, that this effect is not the sole reason for glowing Serenity reviews.

I'm certainly no Prequel apologist (I find large swaths of Eps 1 and 2 unwatchable, due to faults in both conception and execution), but I did enjoy Episode 3 quite a lot, despite several reservations. Not because of any misplaced "loyalty" to the series, but because I genuinely responded to the story being told, and (more or less) the way it was being presented. I'm sorry that you didn't, although I can certainly understand why you and many others did not. I may agree the next time I see it. Who knows?

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Would any of those who "got it" about Anakin suddenly and without nearly enough justification turning to the Dark Side (except that the first three movies kinda forced him to) care to explain the totally screwed up time lines we're left with? The Death Star could not possibly be at least 18 years from completion, and we know that the first use of its planet-buster weapon was on Alderaan. How did Darth and Obi-Wan get to be so old in Ep IV when Luke was not more than 20?

While the prequels do have major deficiencies, I don't see the timeline as one of them.

1. The Death Star. It doesn't seem out of line for the DS to have taken 20 years to construct. You're building a spacecraft *the size of a small planet*, with probably at least a marginal degree of secrecy. How long would that take?

2. Obi-Wan and Vader. Let's say Obi-Wan was about 20 in Episode 1; that would make him about 30 in Ep 2, and somewhere in his mid-30s in Ep 3. Add 20 years to that, and he should be in his mid-50s in the original Star Wars. Alec Guinness was 62 when he shot the original film. I guess that doesn't seem all that far off to me. I mean, Nick Brendon was 26 when he played a 16-year-old Xander!

(And how old, exactly, does Darth Vader look in Episode IV? Hard to tell, really....)

HKCAVALIER

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:01 AM

"Right, so in order to save my wife from dying in childbirth, I'll just have to kill these innocent kids here, yeah, I'm the good guy..."

No. It's crap. Meaningless unjustified filler. The reason why Obi-Wan's grief on the volcano seems perfunctory is because all that leads up to it--Anankin's turn to the darkside to save his wife--is bogus. I really wasn't interested in how a self-centered punk with anger management issues becomes Darth Vader. I was hoping for a little more.

HKCavalier

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BLACKOUTNIGHTS

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:03 PM

How uncivilized. Seems I touched a nerve...which, of course, was the intention. Nothing personal, bub. We're all in this together.

I like Star Wars but am hardly a die-hard fan. I don't own any of the movies in any form and absolutely hated The Phantom Menance and Attack of the Clones.

As for what you don't understand...

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EMBERS

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:13 PM

one thing is for sure...
R2D2 got all the good lines.

NAKEDANDARTICULATE

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:23 PM

touche
"so be it,jedi"

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FRAY101

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Shiney:
I thought about Padme passing away like that is that does anyone know how use of the Force like that affects the body ?

Sorry if someone's already commented on this...

I read - somewhere - that Padme was supposedly sick during the pregnancy because no human had ever had so many midichlorians in their body before. I think this was in one of the Making Of books - obviously no such mention in the film.

OK, so maybe we don't really want to go down the midichlorian route (where did that nonsense come from anyway) but that would have been a better excuse than "She's lost the will to live."

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BEOWULF

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:48 PM

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I read - somewhere - that Padme was supposedly sick during the pregnancy because no human had ever had so many midichlorians in their body before . . . that would have been a better excuse than "She's lost the will to live."

I'm seeing this complaint in several places. Is there some reason to think Palpatine is lying when he tells Vader that his anger killed her?

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