Things that bug me about Episode III (well, just a few things)

POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Sunday, May 29, 2005 07:01
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MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by nxojkt:

1) The emperor was made to think that Padme had died before giving birth.

Did you feel a disturbance in the force?

Disturbance in the force? Nope, not me my master. We've all been feeling things happening all over the galaxy these past few hours and suddenly, nothing.

You sure? Because that sure felt like a disturbance to me.

Probably gas. Antacid?

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2) It was assumed by the jedi that Anakin died. Why would they need to hide him from Anakin if he burned to death following his duel with Anakin. By the time the knowledge came about that Vader had survived, Yoda was exiled on Dagobah and could not risk surfacing to move Luke.

Bearded bloke with a cape - talking to a blue ghost. Surely at that point Obi wan thinks - maybe should have kicked him into the lava, or checked he actually died - but still, its not as though me old mucker Anakin hasn't come back to Tatooine in murderous rages before, so we'll just wait and, oh bugger, he's right above us. Time flies when you're having fun.

How come Vader didn't know where his brother, Obi Wan was? Surely some explanation would be required - if you're throwing plot points to the toilet wall in a dirty protest to see what sticks, how about something on that?

"Tear this plot apart until you find those holes."

LOBOHAN

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:40 PM

I've seen it and hate so much of the movie that I just may turn to the dark side myself.

Honestly the dialog was terrible. I personally found the "This is how liberty dies..." line very contrived and silly. I think a good director/screenwriter wouldn't need any dialog at all to get that feeling across.

I liked the effects, in places. Great lightsaber duels, they felt dangerous and frantic. The space sequences were good looking, but stupid.

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I mean any jerk can fly up to a Capital ship blast it's landing bay sheild generator (which is on the outside of the ship!) and fly on in? Also the Ray Shields (Not sure of the spelling) that can immobolize anyone, including Jedi make it seem like it was a really bad idea to run onto that ship. I can't imagine why someone would board a ship with two people when you know the ship has one of those systems. Were they just hoping that Grevious would forget about it? Well actually hid did forget about it for the first 15 minutes of their rampage. And this guy is a General?!

Then there is the lava droid that Anakin is riding for a few minutes during his duel with Obi Wan. He super-jumps onto the top of a droid that's skimming the lava and it somehow flys exactly where he wants it to without any verbal communication. If the droid is mindless then it should follow it's programming. If it can think it probably should do something about the human that just fell on it's head. Take it to safety or something. Not maneauver around so he can swordfight better! Maybe it had foot controls on it's head though.

Anywho, I'll stop now, I just intended to relate an opionon here and I'm getting all worked up.

"If they take the ship, they’ll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothing, and if we’re very, very lucky, they’ll do it in that order."

AURAPTOR

Monday, May 23, 2005 9:52 PM

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Leia could have simply been dreaming of her mother and assumed they were memories. The fact that she thinks her mother died at a certain time doesn’t mean she actually did. Some adopted children build elaborate fantasies about their real parents, perhaps she is no different and believes that she actually knew her real mother for a time.

Wouldn't a 'grown up' Leia kinda figure that out and tell it like it was? Like..."I'm not really sure, but I have memories of...". That scene w/ her and Luke was fairly intimate, so it just seems Leia would give more of a 'from the heart' answer. And why wouldn't Luke have any such memories? Anything at all? Just seems a bit much to accept from a story that catered so heavily to the mouth breather mentality.

Eh, I'll give Ep III partial credit for evoking 'some' nostalgia for the original movies, but it just seems that's the very LEAST it could have done.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

OPPYH

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:10 AM

The thing that bugged me the most:

1. No Serenity trailer

2. That's pretty much it. I thought the film was awesome.

HKCAVALIER

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:30 AM

Hey, everybody, I don't think anyone's mentioned this but the simple reason that Leia can say she remembers her mother dying when she was very young is because she is not talking about Padme at all. She doesn't know Padme exists any more than Luke knows about Anakin. She thinks she's an Organa not a Skywalker, right? The mother that died was the Senator's wife. Isn't it just that simple?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:17 AM

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The mother that died was the Senator's wife. Isn't it just that simple?

That would be a huge no.

Unless she had three mothers, which is possible.

If she didn’t know of at least two mothers why would she think she knew what Luke meant by, “real mother,”?

If Organa's wife died when Leia was young and then he remarried perhaps she would believe that when Luke asked about her real mother he meant her adopted father’s first wife.

Still, even then she should probably be able to put two skin colors together and come out in a not-her-genetic-parents direction.

And, actually, checking the line she never really said she had memories of her mother. First she says she remembers a little bit, but then, when pressed, she says, “Just images really, feelings.” That sounds a bit like a force induced vision to me so perhaps the continuity is not quite as screwed up as I thought it was.

HKCAVALIER

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:31 AM

Ah, I was afraid I didn't remember things right and...I didn't...thanks for the correction.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:48 AM

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And, actually, checking the line she never really said she had memories of her mother. First she says she remembers a little bit, but then, when pressed, she says, “Just images really, feelings.” That sounds a bit like a force induced vision to me so perhaps the continuity is not quite as screwed up as I thought it was.

I didn't check the script, and it's been ages since I've seen Return..., but I thought I recalled her saying something about having memories of her mother being sad. Either I'm confusing that w/ some other movie, or it plays in w/ the whole 'force induced ' stuff. Which leads me to thinkin....if Leia had these feelings and Luke didn't (least that we know of ), could it be that the Force is stronger w/ her than Luke?

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DRE

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:59 AM

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First of all, pretty battle sequence in the beginning, but WHY must we always start the new movies as if we're in the middle? I mean, where did Grevious come from? (And we've sunk to a new low: an asthmatic robot??)

The 'Clone Wars' animated series is actually official filler for this. Grievous appears as the 'face' of the Separatist Army while Dooku is its political agenda.
Also, Grievous breathes labouriously because when he takes Palpatine from Coruscant, he is wounded by Shaak Ti pretty badly.

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I wish Lucas would have given his actors some direction with the pronunciation of Padme's name. There's an accent over the "e", which means her name is Pad-may, not Pad-mee.

Actually, the accent can vary depending on the language (some IE languages have an 'ay' sound, some an 'ee'). But given her name is rooted from the Sanskrit, that particular syllable is an 'ay' sound. But also, it's a matter of the person's linquistic uprbringing, too. Schedule as 'Skedule' or 'Schedule', it's still the same word and boils down to migratory semantics.

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Again, both Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman were weak in their performances. Christensen just did not have the depth to maintain that role; a few moments spent glowering does not make an "evil" performance.

I agree, I think Hayden wasn't BAD, but he was weak. Had he given it time and skill, it woulda been pulled off.
By far the best roles were Ewan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid (before Windu's sad scene). Obi-Wan's frustration at Anakin while he's immobilized are well done.

I think Samual L. Jackson was given too weak of material (all Lucas's fault); he was shut out from doing the job he coulda done.

IKIYO.
DRE

GABRIEL

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:04 AM

The movie wasn't too bad, all told, but...

I've heard better dialogue in porn.

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RIVER: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are.
MAL: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

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