Thoughts on EPISODE III ***SPOILERS***
POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Monday, June 20, 2005 07:52
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Originally posted by manwithpez:
Joss Whedon has already proven that he uses special effects as part of the story , and not as the driving force.
George Lucas can make no such claims.
By the way, I'm drunker than I was before I wrote this!
Now, don't I wish I could have written it so succinctly! And, I ain't as drunker as you think we is.
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I thought about Padme passing away like that is that does anyone know how use of the Force like that affects the body ? Can the Force in essence sap the body of the will to live without letting outward signs of it show ? because frankly we all know that the Padme we have been presented with for the past few movies wouldn't give up just like that! When Naboo was invaded did she give in ? NO! She fought, but she isn't Jedi and hence she is as susceptible to the Force as any creature.
I also got very angry and cried that the jedi got massacred so easily. The only jedi we see fight back and almost win is the Padawan Boy when Bail gets to the Temple. BTW is the rumour true that the Padawan is actually played by George Lucas' son Jett (sp?) ?
"Oh My God It's Grotesque! Oh And There's Something In A Jar."
"I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you."
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zoid,for someone who has seen the "bdm" i must stress that it is far better than ep3. i dont even want to compare them because that would be an insult to serenity.all i can say is this serenity draws you in from the very beginning(seriously for those peeps who wak in 5-10 min late will hate the movie because they will be lost) the acting is great(and yet they dont take themselves too seriously--which i loved) a story with a purpose,great f'in comedy,and an ending that will make you feel like you are there with the bdh,(something i didnt get from ep3--too many cuts,i couldnt commit to the scene before it was onto the next-----ohhh and the ending with obi giving luke away,made me laugh because it looked like he was a bad dad you know"hey can you hold onto him for a minute i gotta go to the bathrooooooom!(obi runs off)"---meaning NO DIALOGUE! ? ----GRRRARRRGH! i gotta stop talking about this) the first hour of ep 3 i was falling asleep the next 30 min was good then another slump until the last 30 min felt sooooo rushed! when i was watching serenity there is amoment where i realized the movie was almost over,i looked down at my watch and sure enough an hour and 40 mintes had already passed and it felt like no time had passed at all.also when i left ep3 20 min later most of the film had washed away from me---i hated that! after seeing serenity we talked about it from midnight until 4am! THAT IS WHAT MAKES A GREAT F*CKIN MOVIE! ONE THAT STAYS WITH YOU LOOOONG AFTER ITS OVER! and thats it,whew,sorry for the rant but i wanted to love this movie,i wasnt sucked into the hype as i was with the other ones and the fact that this is trhe LAST ONE makes me sad.but i think im done with star wars as i said on another thread.,..here is my t-shirt design to wear all summer long at other films----------------------
serenity was better.
"Hamsters is nice."
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Originally posted by Static:
I liked the vaguely "Godfather-esque" feel to the ambush/slaughter of the Jedi. If it were me, I'd have gone ahead with a full tribute to Coppola and had the ambush scenes take place, mixed with Palpatine's speech to the Senate.
"Nooooooooooooooooo!" And with that, cinema's greatest villan became a self-parody. Surely someone (Spielberg, I'm looking at you) should have told him that this was not the moment to indulge in film school cleverness.
Yes - totally agree with you on the wasted op with the Order 66 (is that the most sinister number, like 42 is the funniest?) - though it contained the one brave moment in the entire film when Annie's lightsaber sparked up (but younglings? Really - how many times in the film did Ewan cover his mouth as if to hide a smirk?).
Just didn't do it for me - the opening was messy, the middle was clunky - Williams score was fantastic and the lightsaber battles were good, but I though Sam Jackson said he didn't go out like a punk - looked pretty Ashton washisfaced- to me.
Yoda's Bruce Lee and quick eye open, the gollum noises from Grievous, a pointless visit to the wookie planet and a meaningless cameo from Chewie - I thought he had something to do with Luke and Leia's flight according to Mayhew? Or did that get cut - because I'm presuming that Ecclestone filmed more than just a walk on as Tarkin before Vader crossed his arms with his brother from the hood.
Good job Padme had a couple of names in mind for the kids as well, given how little time she was on screen.
And what was that
with Qu'Gon. That said, my initial reaction when the music came on was unprintable so I am mellowing to the film - not a lot, but a little.
Deep breaths.
"I threw up on your bed"
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Originally posted by zoid:
Would any of those who "got it" about Anakin suddenly and without nearly enough justification turning to the Dark Side (except that the first three movies kinda forced him to) care to explain the totally screwed up time lines we're left with? The Death Star could not possibly be at least 18 years from completion, and we know that the first use of its planet-buster weapon was on Alderaan. How did Darth and Obi-Wan get to be so old in Ep IV when Luke was not more than 20?
P.P.S.
I got a guilty 'kick' out of the Peter Cushing impersonator (Grand Moff Tarkin, alongside Vader and Palpatine overseeing the Death Star's construction). A little heavy on his prosthetics though, don't y'all think? I wonder how the late Mr. Cushing's family feel about the caricaturization?
Palpatine was played by The Doctor - Christopher Ecclestone (someone tell me I'm not dreaming) - so I assume there is something on the cutting room floor.
Second - timelines annoyed the hell out of me as well. Annie (where was Daddy Warbcuks?) was far to young IMO to become Vader - because everything happened so fast. How old was he compared to Padme? Compared to Obi Wan (and the Obi Wan we see in the first film?).
The rushed turn against the Jedi didn't make any kind of sense either. The police force of the galaxy that it appears everyone is brought up to believe is good - just seconds after the Senate are looking for a "poster boy" Jedi (yeeesh) they suddenly believe, with no evidence, the word of the most evil looking man ever - and then apparently hours or days (who knows with the screwed up timeline within the film) later nobody seems to give a flying that an entire temple of children has been slaughtered (sure, say its propaganda taking over, but the Senate itself would have known otherwise, surely).
Cheap, lazy writing.
But maybe Palpatine had the Death Star on lay away, and he totally kept meaning to get it out, but there was just one more bill to pay...
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Tell me I'm not the only one that noticed that General Grievious sounded like Dark Helmet!
Since Grievious is a cyborg...maybe that's Rick Moranis's heart beating in there!!!
I kept waiting for him to say "The Droid Armies will win The Clone Wars because good is dumb."
Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."
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Palpatine was played by The Doctor - Christopher Ecclestone (someone tell me I'm not dreaming) - so I assume there is something on the cutting room floor.
Ian McDiarmid played Palpatine.
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I really enjoyed this movie. I've got to say, the naysayers probably never understood what Star Wars was about in the first place.
My negative goes against the lovely Natalie Portman in her scene with Ewan McGregor. That seemed so forced.
However, this is the film I've been waiting for. Loved the parting shots seeing the droids on the ship as we first see them in A New Hope, and Luke's uncle staring at the horizon, just as we first see Luke do in A New Hope.
Man, I wish he would have shown more of the battle on the Wookies planet. That was so awesome! I hope there's more of that when the DVD is released.
Great movie. Highly recommended by BlackoutNights.
"You're either in or you're out, and I'm playing to the in."—Greg Dulli
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I feel ya Zoid. I have to walk on eggshells around folks because they loved it and I didn't. I keep trying to find things about it that I liked.
I hope you don't feel like you have to walk on eggshells around here / us. I really felt III was redeeming, but I'm not gonna’ go to pieces if others didn't see it that way. Where would argumentative people like myself be if there were no differing opinions?
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Originally posted by ZaphodB:
Ian McDiarmid played Palpatine.
Doh! Mof Tarkin. Guy with the pink bunny slippers. Now that would have been a nice touch for the cameo.
I'll go boil my head now and see if I can remember which one is Luke and which one Leia. So hard to tell with all the taping down of breasts going on.
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