I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore

POSTED BY: JCKnife
UPDATED: Thursday, August 17, 2023 17:53
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HANITRADER

Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:32 PM

Here is information for you... Off the top of my head I cannot think of a specific "grassroots" organization (say for instance, MADD-Mothers Against Drunk Driving), however, just about every county does have many agencies where you can lend a hand in helping those child survivors with the aftermath. Oftimes there are some state facilities which work with child survivors of trauma, however, most of these agencies are non-profit organizations. In either of the aforementioned facility types, the commitment to care varies greatly. Also, the requirements regarding staff education level and licensing vary greatly- thus the quality of the care-givers varies state-to-state. Finally, there are a few for-profit facilities around, where the bottom-line is profit- my advice, avoid these.
So, where do you go? These facilities which attempt to "recover" these kids are generally called "Group Homes" where they are monitored by a Psychiatrist, therapists, and direct-care 24 hour staff. The direct-care staff usually have a BS degree or the equivilant in work experiance. Many of these Group Homes are run by folks that do lobby the State Government.
My suggestion- Contact your local Department of Social Services and express your concerns and ask how you can help. Check the "Yellow Pages" under mental health. I worked the mental health arena for 12 years, as well as in the medical world, and as much as it pains me to say it, physical and sexual abuse of children and adolescents is way more prevelent than you likely realize. At times, I often felt those abused far outnumber the untouched kids. It really does break the heart. I've since left the field in the last year and have moved on to teaching at the college level. If you're interested in more info, just respond and I'll post a response. Or, you can go to my profile and leave a message with you r e-mail address and I'll write back.

SIGNYM

Monday, May 16, 2005 4:50 AM

China, Brazil, German provinces and French ministries have standarized on Linux. 30% of servers worldwide are running Linux. Apparently yu haven't been looking outside the USA.

AFA Jefferson et al and freedom of thought. I realize that action is always constrained by necessity, but thought is free. Some morons in Kansas pushing intelligent design should not keep me from thinking scientifically.

JCKNIFE

Monday, May 16, 2005 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:

1) Knee jerk lobby groups lead to bad laws. Its the one universal constant in every political system. If there is a group that takes a long term view (and given the emotive, understandably, nature of the subject, I doubt it), they may have some positive effect.

2) Otherwise known as lynch mobs.

3) Politics and the law should never, ever mix. The law defines the extent of the sentence, then the judges apply it - if you want a life sentence for every sexual offender then see (1) above, but how do you draft the law so it allows the 18 year old who gets caught up in the moment with his 17 year old, consenting (and by all accounts, statistically more mature) g/f to be distinguished?

You have chosen your username wisely. [Gump]That's all I have to say about that.[/Gump]

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Monday, May 16, 2005 9:46 PM

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Originally posted by JCKnife:
You have chosen your username wisely. [Gump]That's all I have to say about that.[/Gump]

Wow. Inciteful (sic) comeback.

I can't believe how wrong I was, but your reasoned argument has shown me the error of my ways.

Where do I sign for the posse?

"I threw up on your bed"

SIGNYM

Monday, May 16, 2005 10:26 PM

I showed this thread to someone who doesn't nmly read FF website, altho he loved the show! He said- "They {vengeful ppl} are becoming just what they're attacking- impulsive, emotional and violent".

Hmmm... I thought that was a good point.

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Quote:
Originally posted by Misguided By Voices:

1) Knee jerk lobby groups lead to bad laws. Its the one universal constant in every political system. If there is a group that takes a long term view (and given the emotive, understandably, nature of the subject, I doubt it), they may have some positive effect.

2) Otherwise known as lynch mobs.

3) Politics and the law should never, ever mix. The law defines the extent of the sentence, then the judges apply it - if you want a life sentence for every sexual offender then see (1) above, but how do you draft the law so it allows the 18 year old who gets caught up in the moment with his 17 year old, consenting (and by all accounts, statistically more mature) g/f to be distinguished?

You have chosen your username wisely. [Gump]That's all I have to say about that.[/Gump]

I'm afraid I'm hearin' the same voices Knife. No offense.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:27 PM

We seem to be suffering from a lack of common sense in today's society--that's what a lot of "zero-tolerance" policies amount to: taking common sense out of the equation and, god forbid, not forcing an adiministrator or decision-maker to make a (GASP!) value judgement!

No one wants to lock up 18-yr-old Junior having consentual fun with 17-yr-old Mary. But if we can't agree that those who seek out, rape, and murder pre-pubescent children are evil, and must be punished to the fullest extent of the law for the purposes of both eradicating them from our society and discouraging others from following through with the same notion, then we have something fundamentally wrong. Actually YOU do. I'm not afraid to say it.

I have to keep reminding myself that this board is read worldwide. I hope that those of you waffling on the side of the child-killers are not U.S. citizens.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:51 PM

"Evil"?? What do you mean by "evil"? Possessed of the devil? Baselessly cruel? Willfully deviant?

I read your words, but I feel like we're speaking different languages. I would appreciate an explanation- thanks.

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:01 PM

This is a perfect example. I state that child-rape-murderers are "evil" and I get questioned on it? WTF? I really didn't expect debate in THIS thread. I'm quite disappointed.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:11 PM

Since when is a question a debate? So many people have so many different connotations for the word "evil" that I'm trying to figure out if you mean "intentional" or "horrifically cruel", both, or something else.

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