Can you still watch The Terminator? Or T2? Or (eek!) T3?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 18:34
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STARPILOTGRAINGER

Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:17 PM

Haven't seen T1 in quite a while, but remember it being okay, but nothing that really drives me to rewatch it. T2 is one of those movies that if it's on, and there's nothing else on more important, I'll usually watch it.

I saw T3 in the theatres, and it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either, and I give them big points for the ending. I'd watch it again if I happened across it.

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MAJORCLOD

Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:20 PM

T2 will always be one of my favourite films. T1 is quite good too, but like a lot of people my age we saw T2 first, so its kinda what we grew up with.

I was looking forward to T3, and the ending was really quite cool, but it completely screwed over the whole point of the first two films.

"No fate but what we make" - That is what they were about, being in control of your destiny and the world around you... T3 came in and literally said no, its going to happen and you can't do SFA about it.

Sure it had some good sequences etc, and the ending was cool, but I really hate the fact that it made the second almost meaningless.

CALHOUN

Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:46 PM

Quote:
CALLMEATH wrote:
Saturday, May 14, 2005 16:50

The part when Arnold says "talk to the hand" nearly made me leave. And some people actually laughed! Unbelievable.

Hey! I was one of those people that laughed.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheReaver:
One of the punks at the beginning was Hudson in Aliens and a cop in Predator 2. He has been killed by an alien, a predator and a terminator.

lol, that's quite a distinctive rap sheet! No other actor in the world can say that!

This ain't happinin' man Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I'm going to have to go with The Terminator.
The sequels as good as they are are just too damn slick looking for me. I really loved the grainy grubby look of the first one.

That first one was a low budget masterpiece.
The second was a grand production, but slick (as you said) and bloated. Action was great, but 'liquid metal'? That always bothered me.
The first one had a perfect harrowing ending, and needed no sequel, really.
And, effects aside, I hated 3.

I think we agree.

But still, how did John Conner send Reese back to be his father if John's father(Reese) hadn't met Sarah in the original timeline to ever create John?
Edited to include: I think I answered that question based on some info from Manwithpez. See below.

And speaking of 'Timeline', did you like it? I thought it was okay, but not enough to own a copy.

Tic-toc Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MajorClod:
T1 is quite good too, but like a lot of people my age we saw T2 first, so its kinda what we grew up with.

Quick, turn on your TV!
There's a really good episode of Teletubbies on!

Love funnin' with the youngsters Chrisisall

JCKNIFE

Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:39 PM

Loved T1 and T2 but T3 invalidated the whole premise. I hope to never see T3 again (and yet I own it on DVD to complete my set...).

There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.

OPUS

Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:52 PM

Some made a good point about it depending on which movie you grew up with.
However, I also agree with the sentiment that sequels are never as good as the original. T2 and T3 make the same mistakes that the Raiders sequels as well as others have.
They try to inject 'humor' and 'in-jokes', kind of like a wink at the audience into the films.
A perfect example is, as someone else said, making Arnold cuddly in T2. The character still could have been a good guy without the whole..."Hasta la Vista baby" crap.
T2 would have been much better if Sarah had still been the primary focus of the film, not the kid and Arnold.

"If I was in this business for the business, I wouldn't be in this buisness."

Opus

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:31 PM

Agreed, Opus. The cuddly crap took some of the edge off it.
Only one great line stands out for me: "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." That was kind of a chilling line, played straight.
But mostly it's kinda corney.

Corn's to eat not to watch Chrisisall

OPUS

Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:29 PM

I don't see that line as corny, a bit preachy, maybe.
The unnecessary humor,detracts from the movie as a whole, and hurts the impact lines such as that have on an audience.
At least in my opinion.
Imagine the film with all the humor removed, a much, much darker film. They seem to be afraid to make darker films anymore.
"The Thing" remake was a very good and dark film, and was condemed for it.
My all time favorite horror movie "The Exorcist" couldn't be made today. It's a serious, dark, relentessly intense film.
With that said, I do enjoy T2 for what it is and to a lesser extent T3. It's just that they could be so much more.

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Opus

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