Stem-Cells, degenerate Gay Lesbo rights, Abortion, Janet Jackson's boob..what's the problem ??
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UPDATED: Sunday, December 1, 2024 16:44
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Originally posted by rue:
I'm sure you are old enough to realize you can't fly with pixie dust and happy thoughts, so perhaps you could bring some of that same reality-based learning to this topic.
LOL, I'm writting this one down!!!
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Originally posted by ReeQueen:
I love this discussion, I want it to continue. I just can't bear trying to load the thread anymore. It is a pain in my ass.
Seriously.
the thread is way too big now
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How low can you go, Rush?
http://www.microenterprisejournal.com/JournalBlog/2006/10/25/how-low-c
an-you-go-rush/
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Stem cells are about Merck and money. I keep saying it, eventually someone will look it up. Nancy Reagan became a whore when she accepted the cash/political pressure to speak out against stem cell research. This has nothing to do with christianity. It was a republican bill Bush vetoed. If Nancy wanted to back the GOP she could have backed the GOP senators forwarding the bill, not the GOP poser president.
Gays are democrats. If gays are allowed to marry, they will adopt children. 90% of all political positions in this country are inherited, ie. people vote for the party their parents voted for 90% of the time. If gays adopt children, they make more democrats.
Janet Jackson is a democrat, she was on an MTV presentation, MTV is a democrat, and it was running on a CBS halftime show, CBS is a democrat. Govt. loves censorship powers. A republican govt. would love to censor democrats, or at least make them pay it money.
Abortion is wrong. It's killing. Don't kill people, places, things, plants, etc. It's a simple rule.
None of these things have anything to do with christianity. I'm not a christian.
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You need to learn to distinguish your emotions from reality. A blob of cells is not a child yet.
Rue,
that's not a reality, it's an opinion. One with which I respectfully disagree.
It's also a terrible argument. If I were on the other side of this issue, which I'm most empahtically not, I would make an argument based on something like "if abortion were illegal it would happen anyway and more people would die" or something like that.
"Abortion is okay" is just a terrible argument, and its dangerously close to dread scott. If you say "it's not a person so I can do what I want" - that is not a fact, and it's not a sound argument - it's a rationalization.
The goons who torture Iraqis for fun, be they Americans, Brits, or Israelis, or be they Saddam Husseins goons torturing Kurds, are essentially basing their argument on the same position "it's not a person, so it's okay" - that's just extremely shakey moral ground.
You're free to believe that, sure, but it's not an argument which is going to wing the hearts and minds of the people.
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Finn,
I know he pays your bills, but have the guts to just stand up and say the president is wrong about something. When you make excuses for him you look like his bitch.
I'm not not at all convinced this is an issue with any moralistic component to it at all, but more than that, if you support it, support it, say the president is wrong. A large portion of the GOP supports it, it's not exactly a fringe issue. Look in Jan '07 for a veto override on this by a good number of republican senators.
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Quote:Except they're objectifying a person, you're 'personfying' a cell, then saying the opponents argument is similar.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The goons who torture Iraqis for fun, be they Americans, Brits, or Israelis, or be they Saddam Husseins goons torturing Kurds, are essentially basing their argument on the same position "it's not a person, so it's okay" - that's just extremely shakey moral ground.
You're free to believe that, sure, but it's not an argument which is going to wing the hearts and minds of the people.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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If gays adopt children, they make more democrats.
Gays have/adopt children anyway. Why illegalize the protection that they would get if they were being raised by "real, good" parents? Same-sex couples will raise children no matter what, and, by giving the couple almost no rights gives that child no rights.
"Does that seem right to you?"
Besides, that whole "Gays are Democrats" argument is total crap. There are gay Republicans; just because the extremist Republicans (or the pedophiles) get all the media attention, doesn't mean there aren't ::gasps:: tolerant Republicans in the world. And, trying to fit people into these idiotic bi-partisan stereotypes is much like what people did (still do, in fact, although to some lesser extent) with women and men.
Not everyone cares about/pays attention to politics - or conversely, follows the herd and votes because "they live in a red state" - and, there are a hell of a lot more people that live outside the United States (China, India, the United Kingdom, Australia, etc.).
I'm not quite sure if you were actually serious or not (no offense intended), but, if you were, then that's what I have to say about it.
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The irony with that Janet Jackson episode was that there were no complaints about the other tit that was in full view during the entire performance.
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Quote:First of all, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Secondly, when I think the president is wrong I’ll say that I think he’s wrong, and I have, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to slander him. He’s still the president and he deserves a respect that you and some others evidently don’t really understand.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Finn,
I know he pays your bills, but have the guts to just stand up and say the president is wrong about something. When you make excuses for him you look like his bitch.
I’m no one’s bitch. Well except for that one time, but she was really hot. She sort of looked like Vanessa Carlton.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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