Bush LIED about WMD

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 1, 2005 02:00
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SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:18 PM

SargeantX- Hey, GREAT bumpersticker!!! Where can I get one?

Byte- What, and leave this great land in YOUR incapable hands??? Huh! Well, believe it or not, I love my country too much.

Rue- your post is FAR too long for the people who still defend Shrub. Keep it simple. Less than four words. In a row. Remember. They watch faux news.

CALLMEATH

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:33 PM

Thanks for the info, SignyM. We seem to be on the same wavelength, although the writings of Jefferson, Madison and all the others don't make something law. I was just wondering if it's more of a policy or if its written down in a more official manner that there is a separation of church and state. I'd like to think so, at least.

I knew there was no mention of God in the constitution, and am very grateful the founding fathers made it so that the government has to stay out of religion. "Christian" groups (by which I mean the ones who try to force the world to live their way) need to stop trying to worm their way into government. It saddens me that people see these groups as examples of Christianity rather than the mockery of it that they truly are. If you want to convert someone, just tell them about your religion and let them make their own choice.

But, I need to get out of this thread before I get caught up in all the mayhem. Have fun with your arguments everyone!

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
I don't throw 'pig-headed' out there as some kind of generic insult. It's an insult to be sure, but a very specific one. It applies to people who are shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that their convictions are based on delusion or deception - and they just don't care!

There is no evidence, and in fact no reason to believe, that President Bush lied about WMD's. Was he misinformed? Yes--along with everyone else. I'm sure you have seen quote after quote from prominent democrats decrying Saddam and his weaponry during the Clinton administration. It was the prevailing wisdom of the day and holds with his known character and tendencies.

Call me pig-headed if you like--those are the facts as I see them.

You all like to play the victim of the Evil Big Corporation who is pulling the strings and above the law--instead why don't you carve out your own success in this land of opportunity? Maybe because George Soros proved that even multi-billionaires can't buy enough airtime to deceive the good-hearted American public who know what is best for themselves and the world--a president grounded in morals and with conviction for freedom.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:47 PM

Before anyone responds to this last post, let me remind you that he wears a tin-foil hat and believes Faux news. Engaging him with his own delusions is not healthy for him or for you.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:02 PM

Callmeath- One last comment. I am a VERY lapsed Catholic, but long ago in a universe far away, I read the New Testament! For the life of me, I can't imagine where the Christian Taliban gets its message from. Whatever happened to:

"A camel has a better chance of getting through the eye of a needle than a rich man entering the gates of heaven"

and "Behold the Pharisee and the publican"

and "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and even

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's..." (an argument for the separation of Church and State if I ever heard one!!)

JCKNIFE

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:12 PM

Actually Fox News is slightly too left-leaning in my book. A big improvement over the alternatives, though!

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:27 PM

Bush lied. As buffy would say, does the word 'duh' mean anything to you?
Let's be charitable for a second, if you believed something strongly for your whole life and a bunch of people tried to tell you it was all wrong, would you have a hard time believing them? would you poo-poo so called evidence and facts? This here, folks, is religion, plain and simple. It requires faith, nothing more. Bush is a good man. He is trying to do his best. He isn't very intelligent and has daddy issues.
That last sentance will be dismissed as if it is a joke or something by Bush fans. Just like if I said Daredevil can beat Hulk in a fight. "No way, not possible!"
I can be wrong. You can be wrong. But not Bush.
He is the hand of God. Not a sinner like Clinton.
That last sentance will be read like 'Ha, he doesn't know how right he is!!'by Bush fans.

Coming from fear, one needs to be correct. Only in coming from courage can we question if we are being correct.

Wait, I see a WMD!!! Aww, no I didn't Chrisisall

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
- and they just don't care! In fact, they'll gloat in their stupidity, proud of their steadfast ignorance.

For example:

Quote:
Originally posted by JCKnife:
Actually Fox News is slightly too left-leaning in my book. A big improvement over the alternatives, though!

LOL... funny stuff, knife. Bet those little brown kids in Iraq are laughing their asses off - when they're not dodging bullets.

By the way, how funny is it that North Korea is getting ready to test nukes? Guess Bush is only interested in chasing down rumors of WMDs.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

JCKNIFE

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:23 AM

Okay Sarge--you play armchair president: how should the N. Korea situation be handled?

And hey, you're right, the Fox comment was for a laugh more than anything. They are the news source I trust most, but not without question.

Here's my other concession: the absence of WMD's IS an embarassment for our president and a failure of our intelligence agencies. In the end, though, the people of Iraq will be better off when this is over. If you deny that, I'd like to know on what basis.

All this stuff about fighting for oil is the tinfoil hat material. I'll try to "provide literate and though-provoking comments" per the little blue instructions above this box, but let's keep it realistic.

RUE

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:47 AM

SignyM:

"Rue- your post is FAR too long for the people who still defend Shrub." Yeah, I know. I just haven't had time to be brief. And I have to drop out for a while again. But I'll be back - promise or threat, take your pick.

PS I say it's time to hire a special prosecutor to impeach Bush. I wonder if Reno would take the job?

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