My psuedo-definitive Serenity review : *spoilers*
POSTED BY: mudron
UPDATED: Monday, May 9, 2005 03:21
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Great review by the way, Mudron. Please feel free to also join us browncoats who have seen the movie on this serenityspoilers yahoo group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/serenityspoilers
Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.
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Somebody has posted it above...
To clarify...
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The Reaver ships (what are left of them) come after the crew of Serenity as they crash land. Mal goes off to find Mr Universe, and as he does this the Reavers advance on what's left of the crew.
Several of the crew then get critically injured..
They end up locking themselves in a safe. However, just as it's about to close River says "My turn" quietly and jumps through the closing vault door, locked in a room full of all the Reavers. She takes a weapon or two from the Reavers, and preceeds to slaughter them all herself.
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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!! DO NOT READ ON THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEE THE MOVIE!!!Select to view spoiler:
- Reavers. Tres cool. The explaination, too, is simple but not over the top.
What's their explanation?
Come on, sock it to me. I live on spoilers.
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The reasons for the Alliance wanting River back in their grasp is tied together with the origin-story of the Reavers.
I know that in the show (and even at several points in the film) it was posited that the Reavers were simply deep-space explorers who were driven mad by staring into the stellar abyss for too long, but their TRUE origins are revealed to be thus:
Several decades before the current events in the Firefly 'verse - while terraforming a planet known as "Miranda" on the outer rim of civilised space - the Alliance decided to embark on a little experiment: while terraforming Miranda, the Alliance had their scientists dope the planet's atmosphere with just a wee bit of secret chemical compounds specially designed to encourage docility and compliance amongst the planet's burgeoning colonial population.
What the Alliance scientists *didn't* expect however, is that this secret chemical compound would reacte with an unknown element in the planet's atmosphere, which served to amplify the effects of the secret compound a hundred times over. As a result of this accident, the vast majority of the planets' population of 30 million people simply gave up on taking care of themselves and laid down to die.
Unfortunately for both the Alliance (and the entire civilised 'verse), this chemical compound had a completely opposite effect on 10% of Miranda's population...turning these 300,000 people into monstrously aggressive, bloodthirsty cannibals almost overnight.
Eventually, these newly-crafted savages got their hands on a few starships, escaped into cosmos, and BOOM: the Reavers were born.
And guess who'se the only civilian in the entire universe who knows that the Alliance is directly resposible for not only the deaths of 30 million innocent people, but the genesis of the galaxy's most feared deep-space mauraders? You guessed it: our little River Tam.
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For a good overview of the movie with all kinds of spoilery details, go here:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415213&page=1&pp=25
Scroll down to the blacked out posts from JackSkeleton starting with #22. He covers the entire movie in three posts. Just highlight the blacked out portions to read it...
Before the prescreenings this was the best source I found for my spoiler fix. Still the best complete overview I've read. Others have eloquently described parts in greater detail but this is the best overall description of the movie.
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"Appears they've canceled the show and we're still here. What does that make us?"
"Big damn junkies, Sir!"
"Ain't we just."
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throughout 90 of the film, the only sound in space is when serenity begins atmospheric reentry...at which point THERE IS SOUND people. We KNOW this from the apollo capsules...the secound those things hit even the most minimal atmosphere at 900 miles an hour...there's sound.
That said, the sound in the ending space battle...yeah. Is jarring and doesnt do it for me. I really didnt want it there. That sequence needs a nice strong musical acompanyment, and to have all sound go by by.
"Also? I can kill you with my brain."
-River
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Originally posted by DeSangro:
Also, what's the tactics used by the Alliance and Reaver fleets in space? Does their battle make sense? I've been geekily debating with myself over who would win, comparing the Alliance to the Roman infantry and the Reavers to some barbarian horde-- it doesn't matter if the Romans are outmanned or not fighting on their own turf, they'll still win because they have vastly superior training, discipline, and equipment. So too, I have been thinking, it would be in a dust-up between the Alliance and the Reavers. Unless the Reavers have some sort of military genius on their side...
When you see the movie, you'll understand that this question isn't really applicable. It's not your typical "Two fleets battling it out for the fate of the universe" type of space battle. There isn't really a strategy at all, and any tactics that might have been used would only have been on a ship by ship basis.
Using your Roman/Barbarian analogy, it's kind of like hunting parties from both sides blundering into each other in the middle of the woods. Not much more in the way of tactics than "Help your buddy if you can and don't get dead."
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It is, however, somewhat fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.
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Yep, it'd be interesting if they were to knock out all of the SFX during the big Alliance/Reaver battle and replace it with a thick slice of blood-pumping war drum/Chinese erhu/western fiddle music.
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Yep, it'd be interesting if they were to knock out all of the SFX during the big Alliance/Reaver battle and replace it with a thick slice of blood-pumping war drum/Chinese erhu/western fiddle music.
I liked how you think after reading your review, but after this statement, I just love ya!
*shivers at the thought of Taiko drumming*
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Originally posted by mudron:Select to view spoiler:
The reasons for the Alliance wanting River back in their grasp is tied together with the origin-story of the Reavers.
I know that in the show (and even at several points in the film) it was posited that the Reavers were simply deep-space explorers who were driven mad by staring into the stellar abyss for too long, but their TRUE origins are revealed to be thus:
Several decades before the current events in the Firefly 'verse - while terraforming a planet known as "Miranda" on the outer rim of civilised space - the Alliance decided to embark on a little experiment: while terraforming Miranda, the Alliance had their scientists dope the planet's atmosphere with just a wee bit of secret chemical compounds specially designed to encourage docility and compliance amongst the planet's burgeoning colonial population.
What the Alliance scientists *didn't* expect however, is that this secret chemical compound would reacte with an unknown element in the planet's atmosphere, which served to amplify the effects of the secret compound a hundred times over. As a result of this accident, the vast majority of the planets' population of 30 million people simply gave up on taking care of themselves and laid down to die.
Unfortunately for both the Alliance (and the entire civilised 'verse), this chemical compound had a completely opposite effect on 10% of Miranda's population...turning these 300,000 people into monstrously aggressive, bloodthirsty cannibals almost overnight.
Eventually, these newly-crafted savages got their hands on a few starships, escaped into cosmos, and BOOM: the Reavers were born.
And guess who'se the only civilian in the entire universe who knows that the Alliance is directly resposible for not only the deaths of 30 million innocent people, but the genesis of the galaxy's most feared deep-space mauraders? You guessed it: our little River Tam.
For the eyes of the innocent, my entire response will be spoilered...
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Yeah, but surely those original colonists would be dead by now. The contamination must be communicable to their offspring, then... unless the baby Reavers are just indoctrinated throughout childhood that outsiders are bad-- and dinner, besides.
I wonder if there is a danger of the 'Reaver madness' spreading to others if there's prolonged contact (like the survivor in Bushwhacked?
Eh. I dunno. I kinda had the genesis of an idea that they were soldiers or religious cultists gone insane after too much space travel and isolation from others. I still like that theory a bit better. Not that I'm upset about being spoilered-- I did ask for it, but it doesn't really jive with the existential theme in the series about the 'black'-- the emptiness of space and the thin line that separates the sane from the insane.
Or maybe I'm wrong?
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Originally posted by Tzegha:Quote:
Yep, it'd be interesting if they were to knock out all of the SFX during the big Alliance/Reaver battle and replace it with a thick slice of blood-pumping war drum/Chinese erhu/western fiddle music.
I liked how you think after reading your review, but after this statement, I just love ya!
*shivers at the thought of Taiko drumming*
Actually, the music you used for your first vid would fit quite nicely, also... :)
Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.
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