POSSIBLE SPOILERS!: Browncoats let themselves down
POSTED BY: WhoIsRiver
UPDATED: Saturday, May 7, 2005 17:30
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I viewed Serenity as what might have happened at the end of Firefly season 2 or 3. As we should all know by now, with a Whedon show the situation is fluid.
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The one thing I really hope doesn't come from all this is that anyone starts to change the film. I want to see joss vision and not something that came as a result of a negative reaction. Im sure its to late for movie execs to start changing the film but I cant believe someone has set up a website against the film ( and is it wrong that Im still intrigued enough to want to see the site).
www.summer-glau.com
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DON'T find the site. For a start, the name of the site (in the address) is itself one of the biggest spoilers of the film.
They have since compared watching Serenity to violent abuse in relationships -- apparently they think it's the same thing. They didn't actually think the movie was crap (I haven't seen anybody say this), they just don't like some of the plot points.
They're campaigning with Universal to get Joss to reshoot the movie, anyway, which would push it back significantly in terms of release date. They think Joss's writing style is what caused Angel and Firefly to be cancelled, too.
It's very amusing.
There's only about 4 people on the official forums who have problems with the film, but they are trying to kick up a storm online to get the story changed -- and they're starting to have an impact with people who haven't seen the movie. It's quite depressing.
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Thanks for the heads up regarding the spoiler in the name of the site as I may have been tempted to search for it.
I hate it when people get so obssesed with a product that they feel like they own it. At the end the day this is joss' film nobody elses if a group of fans were to get the film changed Id be just as unhappy as if some movie execs decided to change it.
I'll watch the film and if I enjoy it (as Im sure I will) great. If dont I'll still love the series just the same.
www.summer-glau.com
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I'm actually very proud of us Brits because when we had two preview screenings of Browncoats, we kept our mouths shut except for a few threads, carefully marked, where some (but not all) spoilers were leaked.
Flash forward to it being shown in America and look what's happened. Selfish, selfish, selfish behaviour. Absolute toys being thrown out of prams. I grant you, it's a minority but even so, there's no excuse for it. At all.
Do yourselves a favour. Stay here. Avoid spoilers. Look after your knees.
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[this is addressed generally, really]
I've been over the UB today, and in comparison to this board and the OB, it's the one site that has people whining at such a high volume. Probably because it is the "official" Universal board and the bitching cotillion figures they'll get some sort of feedback, and also probably because they realize that a majority of us wouldn't put up with it.
....not that I'd be rude or anything....
And just so everyone knows, I'm speaking as a completely spoiled non-pre-screen viewer. I haven't seen the movie (oh, but I will!), but I've made sure I've managed to pick up every spoilery piece of information available. Because that's the way I am.
Anyway. Useless bunch of semi-sentient cavillers. If it wasn't one thing, they'd be complaining about something else. It's not the message, it's the behaviour.
I'm sorry. Didn't mean to rant quite this much.
If someone is swayed by the moaning to not watch Serenity, that will be that person's loss. It won't be a high number of people, because from what I've seen, the disproportionate majority love, love, love the film, and are much more....sensible (even in fanaticism) in their language.
That's what I've observed, and I still await the movie breathlessly. 
"He has a gorm horizon. All gorm that falls past it is lost forever." UserFriendly http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050114
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I've seen all of this stuff before. You just take out some of the names in Serenity and replace them with "Spike" or "Tara" or "OMG BUFFY/ANGEL 4EVA OR I KEEEEEEL YOU" then it's the same thing. Hell, Joss could probably loan them all a few dozen petitions just so they wouldn't have to write their own.
Joss will not be swayed. And not sure Universal could be either. Since a lot of these people are coming across as completely stalkery and childish, there aren't many who are making any vaild SANE arguments for change.
Everyone has to remember that Joss loves the story more than you do. As in "you" I mean "everybody that exists". His goal is not to fuck over the fans, and he doesn't hate the characters. These characters came from his brain and his heart, and he writes about whatever is personally important to him. People can join in or not, but if a bunch of psycho Browncoats plot together to leave a horse head in his bed.... well, that's ain't gonna win him over either.
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Universal is not going to reshoot the movie. I can personally vouch for that. Aside from anything else, it's way too far down the line anyway.
The US screenings were designed to be a marketing effort - get browncoats to help talk up the movie.
A vast, vast majority of people loved the film. A small group are throwing their toys out of the pram.
I'm less depressed about it now, but still - I really do wonder what insane troll logic some people have. Serenity is a fantastic film. Yes, it's a real journey, but that's the journey Mr Joss Whedon wanted to take us on.
If you don't like it in the end, you've got the Firefly DVDs. But I'm sure nearly everybody from this site will be blown away.
I should learn not to let the few upset me.
One note of interest: nearly every single person moaning on the Universal Board have only just joined it. And are now battering it with negative posts.
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Quote:
Originally posted by ReeQueen:
And just so everyone knows, I'm speaking as a completely spoiled non-pre-screen viewer. I haven't seen the movie (oh, but I will!), but I've made sure I've managed to pick up every spoilery piece of information available. Because that's the way I am.
(snip)
That's what I've observed, and I still await the movie breathlessly.
Sister! I'm with you! :-)
Did you see the "Open Letter to Shakespeare" in response to the negatives? I thought it was hilarious. That guy took a page right out of Joss' book to put them in their place with wit and humor. If you've seen the movie or are already happily spoiled, check it out!
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"Appears they've canceled the show and we're still here. What does that make us?"
"Big damn junkies, Sir!"
"Ain't we just."
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Is the spoiler the one that has already been revealed?
Which is below - WARNING!!! DO NOT HILITE IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILER-FREE!!!!
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Wash dies heroically
I hate it when fans think they know better than the author or director of a book/film - if they want to see a 'certin' outcome - they should WRITE/PRODUCE/DIRECT something THEMSELVES!
They shouldn't pee on anothers work because it didn't fit their narrow viewpoint.
Ignorant sods!
Excuse me please - I have issues with 'demanding fans'. Especailly after the furor of the "ignorant fans" when Joss "killed" Tara in Buffy ... morons.
And don't get me talking on how the "fans" hurt the potential of X-Men. Don't get me wrong, Bryan Singer did a good job and it is a good movie - but not up the the par of "The usual Suspects" and "Apt Pupil" that was EXCELLENT work by Singer...
Sigh - diatribe over, thanks for listening!
"I've heard more intelligent sounds coming out of a pair of corduroys" - Herbert Phillip Lovecraft from *Cast A Deadly Spell*
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