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POSSIBLE SPOILERS!: Browncoats let themselves down

POSTED BY: WhoIsRiver
UPDATED: Saturday, May 7, 2005 17:30
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Friday, May 6, 2005 5:48 PM

Yes, it's a minority again.

For those who don't know, the US had a screening day of Serenity.

Lots of people went yesterday.

Any today... A small number of people are flooding forums across the 'net telling people how bad the movie is. Why? They didn't like 1 or 2 things in the movie. That's it.

One person has even set up a site asking people to NOT see the movie as they didn't like it. Apparently a 'growing number' of people are joining their cause.

The upset is the plot. I'm not going into spoilers (**AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO RESPECT THAT**). Long story short: it's a Joss Whedon script. Lots happens. Change is in the air.

And a few people (a small amount) can't handle that.

I get they didn't like the movie for these reasons (really, I do), but the fact some of them are plastering things across the Internet is pretty pathetic. Some of them are accusing Joss of all sorts online, and one has been threatening Joss (I'm not kidding). Because they didn't like change.

Sigh.

Overall, the browncoat feedback has been exceptionally positive. Really, really good. Incredibly good. But a small number of people are determined to undermime the entire thing now, and that really saddens me.

On the plus side, I'm off to get very drunk now.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:03 PM

As Spock once said, "Change is the essential nature of all existence", and people wanting Serenity to be Firefly should just keep watching Firefly, and not see Serenity.
Did changes take place in Buffy or Angel? Uhh huh. So what makes them think we wouldn't be seeing things change somehow or another for our beloved crew of Serenity?
I, for one, am ready for anything Joss sees fit to deliver upon us (gee...that did sound sorta biblical and such).
DON'T be sad, WhoIsRiver, there's always a few bees on the way to the honey.

A few stings won't stop us Chrisisall

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:08 PM

Is it too much to hope that after this "sting", they'll collapse on the ground and die?

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:16 PM

The problem (well, one of) is that Firefly wasn't on the air long enough to get lots of Joss Whedon's trademark writing.

That is, major plot twists, and things ALWAYS change in Joss's writing. Always. Season 5 of Angel is completely different to Season 1 of Angel.

Joss wrote Serenity in his usual style, delivering the story he had in his mind for Firefly. Lots of the decisions he had in Serenity he had planned for the TV series. Oh yeah.

I'm not mad people can't cope with that. What I am mad about is the website and people going across the 'net trying to get people to boycott the movie because they didn't like the plot.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:26 PM

I'm liking the fact that people are getting mad at stuff in the film. To me it shows how deeply these characters and their story have ingrained themselves into our minds, while we might not like certain aspects of the story, we get an emotional response from it, something you won't get with lets say...according to jim (I know, cheap shot).

"Well, other than being shot at by the Electric Mayhem, I'm fantastic."

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:29 PM

WIR is right. I'll bet (and I posted similarly on another thread) that the Browncoats who are upset are people who've never watched Buffy and Angel - and therefore aren't really familiar with Joss' long-term storylines. I'm sure that whatever Joss put in the movie is what he already had planned for the tv show. I'm sure that when people settle down and THINK about it, instead of just reacting, they'll realize that what Joss did was right for THE STORY. For Joss, the STORY is more important than anything, including our feelings.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:30 PM

ok
well i haven't spent anytime surfing round other sites since i landed back here again a couple of weeks back - this site has been soooo much more interesting then the others and you know what already i feel really confident that none of this rubbish will happen here - yeah its sad - i haven't seen the film but am really, really excited - i am just pleased that i'm gonna be able to take my friends along and see what is BOUND to be 20 times better than most of the films that come out of the USA (no disrespect to americans intended)


'forgive my rudeness. i cannot abide useless people'

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frscpe1:
I'm liking the fact that people are getting mad at stuff in the film. To me it shows how deeply these characters and their story have ingrained themselves into our minds, while we might not like certain aspects of the story, we get an emotional response from it, something you won't get with lets say...according to jim (I know, cheap shot).

"Well, other than being shot at by the Electric Mayhem, I'm fantastic."



Oh, it's provoked an extreme emotional response in a small number of people who are trying to directly get Universal to reshoot bits of the movie and change things. I'm not kidding.

'We don't like Joss's vision, so we'll stamp our feet and try to get it changed'.

Needless to say, Universal isn't changing anything. This is Joss's film, Joss's universe, Joss's characters and Joss's story.

Amusingly nobody has complained about the lack of horses, the action etc (the trailer complaints) -- now it's all focused about stupid crap (quite frankly).

It's incredibly funny, it's well written, it's true to the 'verse... All these things, a small number of people are overlooking as they go on a holy crusade to try to get the movie rewritten to their ideal story.

Life can be really shit to you at times, and that was the entire point of Firefly most of the time.

I do wonder if some of the people on their holy mission actually watched the rest of the movie, or Firefly itself.

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:39 PM

Here's an example: When I read sumpin' on the net about a technical flaw in something, I pay attention, it might be relevant to a purchase or whatnot, if I read opinions, I take it with a grain of salt. There's tons of flicks I saw even though there was minor squabblin' about how 'bad' something 'bout it was. In the end I make up my own mind what to shell out bucks at the theatre for. Most smart folks will be like that, too.
The boycott bums? Frack 'em. They don't matter.



They die after the sting, Firefly goes on Chrisisall

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Friday, May 6, 2005 6:50 PM

silly rabbits.
I love Firefly, but this is NOT "Firefly". That TV show had the restraints and fingerprints of Network TV all over it.
This is SERENITY. And is even BETTER than Firefly.
It's darker, it's sharper, it has an edge...and a bite. Kind of a nasty bite, actually.
And I love it.
There's a space in my DVD cabinet just waitin'


"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

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