Firefly Episode Discussions

Downloading eps, Right or Wrong?

POSTED BY: HotForKaylee
UPDATED: Saturday, March 1, 2003 03:01
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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:54 AM

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Call me ancient but I hate watching TV shows or movies on a little computer screen.

I have no DVD player, only a DVD drive on my computer. I now have about a hundred DVDs, and it doesn't bother me to watch them on a 15" screen. What I wish about the downloaded eps is that they had closed captions and other DVDish features: slow motion, single frame, etc. But if wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak.

m.
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"But ... not boring, like she made it sound." Wash, in ARIEL
"None of it means a damn thing." Mal, in OBJECTS IN SPACE

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Zero:
Check me out on WinMX, I have all the episodes in SVCD format. Any Firefly fans get free starts, just msg me.



Do you, by chance, have a decent copy of Mrs. Reynolds? Ever version I've snagged so far has been buggy and stalls on both Windows Media Player and RealPlayer. Rather annoying, that, given the high praise the ep has received here and elsewhere.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

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Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:38 PM

If you're having trouble with watching the files, have updated your divx codecs? I had the same problem and after I updated it worked fine. Do a search for Nimo Codec if you're use Windows... if your using apple computers, try using mplayer.

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Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:28 AM

Here's what the 'Firefly' U.S. broadcast states:

"Copyright 2002
Twentieth Century Fox Film
Corporation
All Rights Reserved"

"Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation is the author of this motion picture for purposes of copyright and other laws."

"...Ownership of this motion picture is protected by copyright and other applicable laws, and any unauthorized duplication, distribution or exhibition of this motion could result in criminal prosecution as well as civil liability."

Now there has been debate and rulings on what this actually means since around 1981 when Sony was put on trial by Viacom for the first BetaMax VCRs. The basic jist is; any show freely broadcast over the air was 'released' and could be recorded for archival/personal viewing. However, you cannot sell the tape, or charge your buddies to come over and watch it. For years 'dubbers', etc, and more recently VCD, DVD encoders have suggested that you are not paying for the broadcast but the labor and materials and that it is a 'service' for those who do not have the means to 'archive' these broadcasts for themselves.

Here's a good place to read up on the copyright laws: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/


The bottom line is, if money is exchanged for any of these 'unauthorized duplications', then it is a copyright violation and I believe they can burn you for up to $250,000 in civil damages.


As for P2P DL's, right now it is just the delivery agent for the 'broadcast'. In the near future they will probably try to throttled it through the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act" or some other similar law. They will most likely harrass/fine the ISP's until they boot you, but it will be really tough to stop and/or regulate. Plus the whole international factor.

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Until then, I have 'Firefly' on VCD and you can too. The VCD's are free, but S/H is outrageous! S/H for the DVD's will be even more!

Also available on VCD: ST:Enterprise 1&2, John Doe, FastLane, She Spies, Smallville 1&2, Push,NV, and Birds of Prey, Plus! Dark Angel 1&2, Alias 1, Cleopatra 2525, The Osbourne's, Space: Above and Beyond, and The Lone Gunmen


Wish me luck!
D-man

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Friday, February 28, 2003 5:56 AM

I guess we all decided that it wasn't wrong.




Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 3:01 AM

If it weren't for downloaded eps, I never would have seen the show at all. I'm a truckdriver, and a friend got them off the net for me.

Via these ripped eps, I got my parents and brother hooked on the show.

And damn straight, when the DVDs come out my wallet will be flying open.

(Assuming I'm sufficiently recovered from the B5 DVDs and the DS9 DVDs and so on.)

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