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Friday, April 29, 2005 2:36 AM

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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
I should really point out the crew of Serenity could probably be considered Liberal...



BULLSHIT. No way in the 'verse would either Mal or Zoe support the fascism that is gun control or the stalinism that is taxation.

Libertarian yes, liberal hell no!

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Friday, April 29, 2005 3:42 AM

I think it was James Madison who said; "All that is required for tyrrany to take hold is a standing army an enslaved media and a disarmed population."

Well, two out of three ain't bad.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Friday, April 29, 2005 11:03 AM

I am afraid that I cannot cite my sources as this might compromise the security of the United Kingdom (and make the P.M. very cross).
I can say, however that it definately was not the Atorney General (British Browncoats should begin sniggering about now).
Nor was it the "My biggest Book of British Humour" or the T.V. show "Americans do the funniest things".
Disclaimer No.2: The above sources do not actually exist (apart from the Atorney General who still had nothing to do with this, honest) and readers should take the above paragraphs for what they are: a joke.

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Friday, April 29, 2005 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by Conscience:
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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
I should really point out the crew of Serenity could probably be considered Liberal...



BULLSHIT. No way in the 'verse would either Mal or Zoe support the fascism that is gun control or the stalinism that is taxation.

Libertarian yes, liberal hell no!



This is a serious question, so please don't take it as a jab. How does a government support itself without taxation? Where does all the money to operate a government come from?

--Anthony



"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, April 29, 2005 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
This is a serious question, so please don't take it as a jab. How does a government support itself without taxation? Where does all the money to operate a government come from?

One possible alternative to taxation is user fees.

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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.

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Friday, April 29, 2005 10:57 PM

How do you charge a "user fee" for military protection?

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Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:10 AM

Don't know.

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Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:06 AM

I can't really envision a way to field our military without taxes. I mean, you could have a militia, and that could work for the Coast Guard, maybe the National Guard, but I really don't think such a Militia would be as good as our military, and I don't think they'd be able to afford planes, tanks, and other military vehicles without tax money. It'd be a pretty basic force.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:29 AM

The Greeks and the Romans fielded some of the most advanced and powerful militaries of day with just 'militia.' So it’s certainly possible to do, but it would probably require a different social organization then we have today.

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Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:32 AM

Actually...

I can't speak for the Greeks, but the Romans had some pretty conventional armies, issued standardized equipment by the government, provided rations, weapons, transportation, etc...

All of it supported via taxes.

A government not supported by taxes would be hard-pressed to provide anything for troops, leaving our hypothetical tax-free militia to arm themselves with whatever they could afford.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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