Air America Radio is a failure.....GOOD!!!

POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Saturday, May 21, 2005 09:18
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SIGNYM

Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:07 PM

As usual the right wing is full of so much bullsh*t (LIES). Here is the real story:

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April 13, 2005
Air America Radio, Ratings, and the Explosion of "Progressive Talk"
It's been just more than a year since Air America Radio went on the air. It started with 6 stations and jumped to 11 in a few weeks, and now is broadcasting on 52 stations nationwide. It just signed an exclusive multi-year contract with XM Satellite Radio, which has a listening audience of 3.8 million. According to Arbitron, AAR corrals in excess of 2 million listeners a week. Jerry Springer (switching from circus acts to political issues) has also recently signed on as a new host; whether you see that as good or bad, it will definitely bring in more listeners. And stations who switch to AAR programming find themselves shooting from the bottom of the heap to the top of the list in many markets.

Clear Channel radio is bringing in Air America to pick up listeners to its underperforming stations; in Portland, OR station, AAR brought the Clear Channel station from 26th to 3rd in the ratings. Clear Channel is adding 25 stations to the Air America network, because progressive radio "is the fastest growing format in the country; and that is because Air America has proved it attracts listeners and advertisers," according to TIME magazine. That's not just a single opinion, by the way; a web search shows that it is the prevailing opinion: "The future expansion and viability of AM radio is being driven by liberal talk and it is flourishing." And: "liberal talk is the radio industry’s fastest-growing format." And:

Progressive Talk helped drive the News/Talk format to an all-time audience high and a bigger quarterly gain than any other radio format.... The record increase in News/Talk listenership is being driven by the explosive growth of Progressive Talk nationwide. These studies are only the latest evidence of an unmistakable trend towards this new format. ... In the coming year this format will grow ever larger, as more stations recognize the huge number of Americans longing for this format.

http://www.blogd.com/archives/001229.html

We can toss your LIE (LIE LIE LIE) into the trash bin, along with the LIES about WMD, the cost of Medicare, Social Security, and all the other right-wing lies.

THE RIGHT WING IS A TRUTH-FREE ZONE.

SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:09 PM

@Hero:
I do not have time to go through some american "news" paper looking for an obscure article. I've already stated that I wanted a link (which you've failed to supply). And I've already stated a preference to a real news paper (ie non-US). This one is in "Grants Pass, OR". I really don't know why you have such trouble with simple instructions.

And if your "quote" is accruate, it hardly constitutes a death threat. Probably just more right wing BS designed as a "weapon of mass distraction."

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

ANTHONYT

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:06 PM

First, you folks are getting a might personal. It IS possible to discuss an issue and even trash an issue without trashing the people raising the issue.

As for Air America and all other radio propaganda shows, left and right...

Radio shows like this (and, it seems, all news media) have a philosophy. They will always present facts to support their philosophy, and ignore facts that fail to support their philosophy.

News media typically get the facts right often enough that people ignore the times they get the wrong facts, or spin the facts wrongly.

I have never seen a time in our nation when news was as editorialized as it is now. It's gotten to the point where you can't trust a story any more. You have to take everything you read and watch with a jar of salt.

It comes down to: What do I believe?

'Truth' is unfortunately the new Faith of the American people. Everyone subscribes to a different Truth, and in the end, it's based more on what their gut tells them than what the unreliable news media has to say.
(I hope.)

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:28 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
They’re spoiled Lefty celebrities who have used their financial weight to create an outlet for their hatred of other people’s opinions, not to express genuine opinions of their own.

I don't even like the station, but I do find it annoying that you are making it sound like something original. Like all propaganda movements in the past few thousand years it was based on other propaganda movements of the past.

This left wing radio station was a carbon copy of a right wing one in all ways other than the views presented. Just like the right wing radio stations that span this country the station was not concerned with other peoples opinions but rather with their own.

The only real difference I see between the right and left propaganda is that the right is more successful.

The media we have in America is conservative, look at the times it has been accused of being liberal, it was telling the truth. Yet the propaganda machine makes it sound as if it is liberal, if it truly were liberal it would spin things to the left, but I have never seen it do that, not even during presidential campaigns.

Now all of a sudden a station comes out that spins things to the left and people like you make it seem so evil, well at least they didn’t lie to the American people to create their propaganda. Look at republican book companies, investigate how the got started, then come back and tell me if you can truly say the station is any worse.

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Then the media came out against Nixon they called it left wing, but all it told was the truth. When the media came out with the pentagon papers they called it left wing, but all it said was the truth. When the media made errors in favor of Bush they said nothing, yet when a single relatively minor error came out against Bush it was suddenly left wing.

When the media tried to show pictures of the coffins as part of a support our troops campaign (nothing helps people’s desire to support more than showing what is at stake after all) the photographer was called a leftist. Why? The picture was not misleading in any way.

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I don’t see the problem with one group spin doctoring one way when another has been doing it the other way in a much greater quantity for a much larger time.

I’d prefer people to report the facts though.

TALLGRRL

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:42 PM

Um, fool---I mean Skywalken--you need to get some facts together before you post and make yourself look like a jackass.
Air America Radio is not a failure by any means.
You're apparently parroting some posting on drama queen Drudge's little website about a suuposed "threat" made to Bush.
There was NO threat. There was a comic bit about Social Security that had nothing to do with, and no mention of Bush.
Apparently neither you...or Drudge...heard that bit.
The Air America Radio Network is NOT failing. It is, in fact, not only kicking ass in ratings in NYC and other places around the country, it is a growing network.
You need to do some simple fact-checking before you make yourself look so stupid.
Why not try this: www.airamericaradio.com
and specifially go to the Randi Rhodes Show.
Do yourself a favour.
And if you don't like Air America Radio, you don't have to listen. We haven't yet gotten to a point in this country where you are required to listen to, believe in, or think along one party's lines. Not yet anyway.

Oh, and here's something for you.
Doesn't this sound like The Alliance?:
"Fascism is described as a system in which 'The State not only is authority which governs and molds individual wills with laws and values of spiritual life, but it is also power which makes its will prevail abroad.... For the Fascist, everything is within the State and... neither individuals nor groups are outside the State.... For Fascism, the State is an absolute, before which individuals or groups are only relative....'"
check out the rest here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definition

The part about Corporations sounds like Blue Sun.

HERO

Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Your "secret service" cant be very good if everyone knows who its investigating.
There are aproximately 60 million people in the U.K.
Aproximately 59 million of them would like to kill G.W. Bush.
It will take your "secret service" quite a while to investigate them all but good luck with that anyway.
(Disclaimer: I nor any members of my family in any way intend harm towards the present or future Presidents of the United States of America).

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Conjecture. You provide an article for something that is just a sniping shot. Yet when you post something like this, nadda. Where's the proof of this? Where's your link to some "accredited" american "news" paper? Better yet, how about the BBC or some such?

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I agree Sig, the Brit needs to cite his sources.

H

HERO

Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:15 PM

Hey! A double post. Or perhaps an opportunity to expand on my point. Man asks for a newspaper citation, I give a newspaper citation. I didn't take a stand on the underlying issue. So here:

Disagree with the president if you want. Threats are not just inappropriate, they are illegal.

Was this a threat? Probably not. Most likely just poor judgment...much like everything else on Air America (oops, sorry for the cheap shot).

I have a solution for the people at Air America from those of us who disagree with them (sounds of explosions and machingun fire)...or maybe a suggestion for local abortion doctors (shotgun blasts), Mr. Kerry (sound of cattle being slaughtered), Hillary (audio recorded during the rape and murder of innocent victims of African genocide), and Fox TV executives who cancelled Firefly (sound of someone playing the spoons...why spoons? cause they hurt more!). Nope strike all this, its just wrong (although unlike including the President in the above list, its not illegal).

H

HERO

Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
I should really point out the crew of Serenity could probably be considered Liberal, and Joss Whedon himself is indeed a liberal, Kerry supporter.

Lot of good people supported Kerry. Thats what Democracy is all about. Another of Whedon's shows is about a vampire, guess that makes him one too.

Seems Serenity's crew is most likely libertarian. Pro-gun and small govt, but liberal on social issues. I agree with most of that. Actually they'd more likely find a home in the Republican tent then the Democrats. Democrats tend to ban those who disagree with them, thats why pro-life and pro-God Democrats were shut out of last year's Democratic events.

H

SIGNYM

Friday, April 29, 2005 12:47 AM

And the Republicans are so much more inclusive! After all, they hammered McCain into jello. (I can't figure out if right-wingers lie deliberately, or if they really are as deluded as they appear.)

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, April 29, 2005 1:47 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Now all of a sudden a station comes out that spins things to the left and people like you make it seem so evil, well at least they didn’t lie to the American people to create their propaganda.

That’s debatable.

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Look at republican book companies, investigate how the got started, then come back and tell me if you can truly say the station is any worse.

I never said it was “evil”; that’s a superfluous interpretation. And yes, I can truly say they are just as bad. This is a hack job, nothing more. It was created by people who couldn’t care less about being radio talkshow hosts. They used their celebrity clout to create an outlet for their opinion, not because they wanted to be radio talkshow hosts, but because they hated the fact that people they don’t like, purely for ideological reasons, are doing it (and successful at it). It doesn’t make any difference whether the Left or Right is right or wrong, 'Air America' has no sincerity, and I don’t believe a significant portion of the US will listen to them. Recent ratings have demonstrated that very likely is the case.

As far as, whether they have the right to do it, that’s not in dispute. As far as whether they are just as single-minded as Conservative talk radio, that’s also probably not in dispute. As far as whether wholly transparent agenda diminishes their credibility, that’s definitely not in dispute, as far as I’m concerned.

And as far as the media being Conservative, that’s just comedic. The media in the US generally leans to the Left. The New York Times sets the bar for what is newsworthy, and they are unqualifiedly a Postmodern Liberal outlet. The vast majority of journalists are self proclaimed Liberal Democrats. Then there are scientific studies that support the “Liberal Media.” As far as I’m concerned, it’s a fact, and not up for debate. The media in this country is Liberal. The People, however, tend to be more Conservative.

I will say one good thing about 'Air America,' at least I don't have pay for it, like the other Liberal radio talkshow network.

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