How much are you willing to except?

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UPDATED: Friday, April 29, 2005 03:56
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UNCHARTEDOUTLAW

Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:19 PM

I would not be surprised in the least to see a schizm develop between the small screen traditionalists and the folks willing to embrace the movie and the show as two similar-but-slightly-different entities.

I'm of the latter. I love the show immensely. It's awesome, it's groundbreaking, you've heard this all before. But the movie is going to blow our minds...and maybe it's just me, but I'm not going to get hung up over sound in space or slightly different outfits, or a mule that hovers. I was when I first heard of it, but I'm over that. I'm onboard for the adventure.

-Taylor

The Uncharted Outlaw!

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"Well, no more running." -Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity Trailer

WHOISRIVER

Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:37 PM

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It was small, dirty and featured characters who were really more-or-less average people pushed into extreme circumstances. These were people you could hang with. Even down to the cinematography and sound editing - the show made you feel as if you were there.

The movie does, too. The trailer doesn't. It needs to mass appeal, and it doesn't have time to get into steady cam.

Here's one example about the movie - which isn't spoilery, this is about the creative process.

- The movie has a 5 minute 'steadycam' character introduction early on, where the camera walks all over Serenity, shows you it, and introduces all the characters interacting. It's very shaky. It has the group. It has intimet bits. It has humour. At that moment, you feel part of the crew. There's no cutting. No editing. 5 minutes it runs, with everybody giving pitch perfect performances whilst the camera gets shaken all over the place as they are entering atmo.

That's one example. The movie makes you feel like you are on board.

And yes: the crew are pushed to really extreme circumstances they never wanted to be in.

Still worried? Don't be.

CALLMEATH

Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:42 PM

I just realized:

MariBeth = MB

MBers=Embers?

Am I right?

Now, I'm not the least bit worried about the movie. I trust Joss to make one damn fine film. I've always wondered what Joss's original vision would have been like, and now we get to see it. So for me, no worries.

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

CLIOMUSE

Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:49 PM

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That's one example. The movie makes you feel like you are on board.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Reading your comment on the character introductions gave me the same sort of goose bumps seeing the trailer did. For me, Firefly has always been about being there. There here and now feel of the ship, the crew, the situations. I trust Joss and his brilliant cast to take this where it needs to go.

EMBERS

Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:38 PM

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Originally posted by Cliomuse:
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The movie makes you feel like you are on board.

For me, Firefly has always been about being there.

I am excited about that too...
I rewatch the DVDs because I love spending the time onboard 'Serenity' and enjoying the crew,
I am looking forward to the movie expanding that for me!

And Callmeath: You are exactly right, I have always been called 'MB' by my friends...
until someone started calling me 'embers' and I thought that that would make a nice board-name.

WHOISRIVER

Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:38 PM

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Thank you. Thank you so much.

No problems. Another thing.

I want to mention how one of the most pivital scenes of the movie (and the whole Firefly universe so far) is filmed.

I'm going to spoiler tag this. It doesn't say what happens at all - it just mentions the film making way it's shot. Some people might not want to know. I don't think any of you will be upset knowing this, though:

Select to view spoiler:

The truth all comes out... And we see the characters stand and take it in. No CGI. No excessive music. No over acting. Just Mal and the gang... standing. With the look "Fucccccccccccccccccccck" on all their faces as they realise... well, everything.

Again. You feel like you're stood there with them, in one of those 'This is SO fucked up' moments of YOUR life.

Anybody suggesting this is going to be a Big Budget shoot 'em up explosion crappy movie is _way_ off base. I'm amazed people are dismissing things like 'the black guys' character, without even seeing what it's about.

It's how Joss _wanted_ to make Firefly, but never could. Watch it before you decide you don't like the idea, please. I've not heard a single fan (at all) who's seen the test screenings be disappointed. That says something.

SERGEANTX

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:17 PM

Wow! Thanks so much for the insightful comments. You really have set my petty worries aside.

Keep Flying!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

LADYDISDAIN

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:21 PM

I definitely agree that the deciding factor here is that Joss wrote and directed this film. It's an interesting question, though: If it doesn't match our vision... how much are we entitled to complain? (And frankly, at this early stage, why would we want to?)

I have no doubt. Not one. I think the trailer is perfect and wouldn't change a thing. Consider this: While we may watch it thirty times (in slow-motion), most people are going to see it once or twice, probably on the big screen in front of something palatable this summer. When most of us watched that trailer -the first time-, we were blown away. Enough to say, at the very least, "Yeah, I'll shell out the approximately $10-$15 to go check that out." And I think most of us used a lot more expletives than that.

Loath though I am to admit it, we learned something from FOX. Ratings make a difference. It sucks, but there you go. The film-equivalent is that opening weekend at the box office. The trailer is not designed to sell the film to those of us who are already standing in line -- it's to draw in those extra numbers. It has to sell big on opening weekend to be considered anything other than a sleeper hit. If enough people see the film off the top, word of mouth takes over -- like it did for that other film about pirates...

Besides which, this first trailer needs to counter-balance a title that suggests something quite other -- "Serenity" is not a title that evokes the rapid-fire dialogue, the wit, the avant garde camera work and the roughhousing that come with it. (Note that this is in no way a criticism of the title, just a view on marketing.)

MANWITHPEZ

Thursday, April 28, 2005 5:22 PM

You know...hoenstly, and not to step on any errant toes here, but there's a lot I'm willing to accept...I mean Mal could actually blow Jayne out the airlock, run out himself, and both could have a lightsaber duel on Serenity's hull without spacesuits for all of me. I get to see my big damn heroes, played by my favorite actors again!
Jayne is going to be surly, River is going to be crazy(er), Simon is going to be tense, Wash is going to be a smartass, Mal is going to be a badass, Book...is going to be Book, Inara and Kaylee and Zoe (and River) are going to be hot! The pieces were all still there, they were just waiting for the right someone to pick them up and put them back together again. And you know that's just what Joss has done.
To me, that trailer was like falling in love again with something I already had an immense infatuation with already! And, I can't wait...So bring it on...whatever, punk rock instead of Western Twang, River is really Jack the Ripper, Jayne and Simon let Book marry them in a public ceremony...Don't care...not in the least...As soon as Serenity flies again, it will all be worth it!

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

RABIT

Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by LadyDisdain:
The film-equivalent is that opening weekend at the box office. The trailer is not designed to sell the film to those of us who are already standing in line -- it's to draw in those extra numbers. It has to sell big on opening weekend to be considered anything other than a sleeper hit. If enough people see the film off the top, word of mouth takes over -- like it did for that other film about pirates...

Uh, just so everyone understands, one of the other important indicators is how much it makes on its second weekend in comparison to the opening weekend. If there is a significant drop, it's considered a failure. If there's an increase, then it's a significant success. (A number of movies have had good opening weekends then virtually nothing after that, so they were considered failures.)

So, when we all go see it again, I'd highly recommend that we give it a couple shots that first weekend, then go see it again the next weekend.

Just something to think about... and work into your plans.

Rabit

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