let the overanalysis begin!
POSTED BY: est120
UPDATED: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:13
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Howdy, folks - a newbie de-lurking at the grand occasion of the trailer's release.
On the "6 rebels" topic - that had me mulling and a mite distressed, especially with the Kaylee and Book near-absences, but here's a theory: six of our nine are "on the run"... and the other three are up to something else.
In the grand tradition of many "action" movies, there is often a splitting of groups to provide sub- or secondary plots - fills out the overall film and possibly provides some breaks in the action, literal or not, for a main plot. (You know: Luke heads to Dagobah, Han/Leia/gang head to Bespin - adventures ensue. Like so.)
I can easily envision the story involving Wash and Kaylee, with Book in tow perhaps, having to split off from the rest of the gang with Serenity at some point with a "mission" of their own. Provides lots of potential goodness, from a poignant Wash/Zoe farewell scene to swooping rescue at the last minute when our main gang of BDH's get in over their heads.
Sound possible? Whatever the case, sound in space or no, this movie is going to *rock*!
Thanks, Joss.
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Originally posted by rhuttner:
You are the first person (at least the first one that I've read) to come close to sharing a theory I've had since War Stories aired. Nice to know I'm not alone.
And good to know I'm not, either! So go on, what is exactly is your theory then? (you said I'm only "close")
Coincidentally, I was just watching 'War Stories' this evening (was inspired to a re-viewing by Michelle West's piece about Wash & Zoe in _Finding Serenity_). I was struck anew by River's line when she's shooting Niska's henchmen near the end: "Don't look, don't look." A mantra learned during training, I assume. She isn't just doing the maths... she's following the procedures planted in her brain.
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Originally posted by NicolaClarke:
I was struck anew by River's line when she's shooting Niska's henchmen near the end: "Don't look, don't look." A mantra learned during training, I assume. She isn't just doing the maths... she's following the procedures planted in her brain.
ooooo. i like that one.
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Let's see here...Mal :"I don't kill children"
The Operative: "I Do", "This is your fault" "I will continue...River Tam...etc."
Photo: Kaylee, Mal and Book at what appears to be a mission, Kaylee cradling a child...
Putting 2 and 2 together...No way...No ruttin' way!
Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."
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I thought she said, "Don't look. Don't think." I haven't reviewed the scene, so I could be way off.
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A little teaser for you here, but I'm going to mark it as spoiler because this actually refers to the events in the film, not just the trailer (but I think people may be with knowing this now - it doesn't give anything extra away);
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You learn why River is important within the first 5 minutes of the movie. The explaination is genius, makes sense, and not a single person online I've seen has thought of it.
Oh yeah.
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Originally posted by RelFexive:
> Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped.
Speculationy musing. If River is the signal, or contains the signal in her brain, whatever that may be... what if the Alliance purposefully allowed her to slip away? What if they're chasing her to drive her towards where she needs to be to do the most damage to the Alliance's few remaining enemies? Simon's speech in the trailer about how he sprung River always bothered me. "I was contacted by some men, some underground organisation..." sounded a little too pat and easy - like a rather unspecific plot device.
Did Simon really not try to find out who they were before he trusted them with his and his sister's lives? And if the alliance was manufacturing psychic super-killers, they must have had some fairly serious security measures in place - to stop the kids from accidentally tearing up the place, and to stop anyone else from seeing in. So... what if Simon was allowed to believe he'd snatched River away, when in truth she was sent?
Alternatively, someone high up in the Alliance went rogue, and her escape was planned by them (Book?). Because either Simon's "men" were pretty damn special, or it must have been an inside job of some sort.
perhaps, being the relatively honest man that he is, Simon swore that he would not reveal who the men were, and is keeping his promise?
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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.
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Originally posted by howdyrockerbaby1:
perhaps, being the relatively honest man that he is, Simon swore that he would not reveal who the men were, and is keeping his promise?
Good suggestion, very possible. It just sounds to me from the phrasing that Simon himself isn't too sure. Another one of those Joss-ish throwaway ambiguities for people like me to read too much into
Talking of which, to people who have seen the film: can I get a vague, non-spoilerish indication of whether we find out anything more about what's up with Inara? Or if there's no explanation, are there any more tantalising hints that there's SOMETHING up, a la Nandi's comments in HoG? Sorry if this has been asked before, been busy lately and missed most of the screening threads.
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est120 wrote:
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i feel it is pretty clear that serenity is involved in this big battle on the side of the reavers. of course, it is possible that mal is not really in control of the ship at the time but that is a stretch. one interesting note. if you look closely, there is a clip that shows a bunch of ships moving towards the camera. serenity is in the middle and if you look to the left and just below serenity, you can see the reaver ship with the magnetic grappler that they all escape from in the pilot. pretty sweet evidence that mal takes the reaver's side against the alliance.
I'm with you on this one. That's precisely the way I interpreted that scene, too. It may not fit others' pet theories regarding the Alliance and Reavers; but it's clearly Serenity in the middle of the shot, flying formation with (as opposed to running away from) the Reaver ship from the pilot. In a later scene, we see that same ragtag flotilla (with the one big rundown capital ship) heading straight toward an Alliance armada/blockade fleet. Also, Mal states that the Alliance will never expect what's coming (surmised meaning: Rebels and Reavers fighting on the same side against the Alliance).
Of course, this is all speculation. But, I'd consider that pretty spoilerific, if we had some clue how the movie explained that unification of disparate interests. That would be a fairly tricky piece of storytelling.
Also, aside from the Universal logo, there is another shot of Earth (clearly North American Gulf Coast, Yucatan and Cuba in evidence) with a fleet of ships flying away. Perhaps The Diaspora as Earth slumped to her death? Or something more startling regarding the actual secret fate of Earth-That-Supposedly-Died?
Speculatively,
zoid
P.S.
Hot damn! Our movie is sooo gonna kick ass this Fall!
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"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'
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Hey all. someone may have suggested this above, but i don't have time to read through all the posts. i took the "can't stop the signal" as a nod to us specifically, saying "they can't shut us off this time" I could be wrong, but I like it.
--bryan
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