let the overanalysis begin!
POSTED BY: est120
UPDATED: Thursday, April 28, 2005 12:13
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I consider this the bestest birthday present ever-
And I don't mind sharing it with a bazillion Browncoats, either 8-)
Vince, who's very old now...
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Originally posted by mooshoo72:Select to view spoiler:
6.) My wild speculation about the reavers is that they are in league WITH the Alliance.. Tho I'm not sure why that would make sense, but it sure would be a nifty twist! :)
i feel it is pretty clear that serenity is involved in this big battle on the side of the reavers. of course, it is possible that mal is not really in control of the ship at the time but that is a stretch. one interesting note. if you look closely, there is a clip that shows a bunch of ships moving towards the camera. serenity is in the middle and if you look to the left and just below serenity, you can see the reaver ship with the magnetic grappler that they all escape from in the pilot. pretty sweet evidence that mal takes the reaver's side against the alliance.
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Originally posted by est120:
i feel it is pretty clear that serenity is involved in this big battle on the side of the reavers. of course, it is possible that mal is not really in control of the ship at the time but that is a stretch. one interesting note. if you look closely, there is a clip that shows a bunch of ships moving towards the camera. serenity is in the middle and if you look to the left and just below serenity, you can see the reaver ship with the magnetic grappler that they all escape from in the pilot. pretty sweet evidence that mal takes the reaver's side against the alliance.
I didn't see it that way at all.
We've long understood that Serenity is a tiny little ship, and the one time we saw a Reaver ship, it was much larger than Serenity. I think what we saw was Serenity hauling ass away from what appears to be a Reaver 'fleet' so dwarfed by the larger ships that in our very brief glance it might appear that she was with them.
What LITTLE we've learned about the Reavers is that they would pretty much be a threat to EVERYONE, regardless of their political and philosophical leanings, and Mal knows that.
HERE'S something that would make a nifty plot-twist. . .
Mal, knowing that he can't fight the Reavers OR the Alliance in a head-on fight. . .and CERTAINLY not BOTH, he decides that perhaps warning the Alliance of the Reavers or somesuch plan as that will get the heat off him for the sake of River. I get the distinct impression from the trailer that Mal has become very devoted to keeping her safe.
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good point. we could argue for months about this. 
of course, we actually do have MONTHS to argue about this. we will have to wait until september to find out who is right! 
we may BOTH be wrong!
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> Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped.
> Simon and River don't count as part of the '6 rebels' group as they are 'the two hunted fugitives' instead. So I reckon the last non-rebel must be Book, since he seems to be the only one not hiding/running away from something.
"My God - you're like a trained ape. Without the training."
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Book is neither a rebel nor on the run. Remember that in the series, Book was just as 'pally' with the Alliance as Inara was.
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Originally posted by est120:
1. what do you think the end means? "you can't escape the signal"?
"You can't stop the signal"
I was under the impression, from the very first viewing of the trailer, that it was refering to the 'red button' (from OOG) that the cast & crew gave Joss when Firefly was cancelled. They said something to the effect of "If you manage to get the project off the ground, hit that button, and we'll come a' runnin, no matter what."
Of course, it may have something to do with the plotline of the movie, I dunno :)
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Originally posted by RelFexive:
> Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped.
Speculationy musing. If River is the signal, or contains the signal in her brain, whatever that may be... what if the Alliance purposefully allowed her to slip away? What if they're chasing her to drive her towards where she needs to be to do the most damage to the Alliance's few remaining enemies? Simon's speech in the trailer about how he sprung River always bothered me. "I was contacted by some men, some underground organisation..." sounded a little too pat and easy - like a rather unspecific plot device.
Did Simon really not try to find out who they were before he trusted them with his and his sister's lives? And if the alliance was manufacturing psychic super-killers, they must have had some fairly serious security measures in place - to stop the kids from accidentally tearing up the place, and to stop anyone else from seeing in. So... what if Simon was allowed to believe he'd snatched River away, when in truth she was sent?
Alternatively, someone high up in the Alliance went rogue, and her escape was planned by them (Book?). Because either Simon's "men" were pretty damn special, or it must have been an inside job of some sort.
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Originally posted by RelFexive:
> Simon in uniform could be a different rescue rather than River's original one. But then, we don't know the exact circumstances of her original escape and how Simon was involved. The fact that the Feds were after him suggests they knew it was him by more than the fact that he was absent after she escaped.
Speculationy musing. If River is the signal, or contains the signal in her brain, whatever that may be... what if the Alliance purposefully allowed her to slip away? What if they're chasing her to drive her towards where she needs to be to do the most damage to the Alliance's few remaining enemies? Simon's speech in the trailer about how he sprung River always bothered me. "I was contacted by some men, some underground organisation..." sounded a little too pat and easy - like a rather unspecific plot device.
Did Simon really not try to find out who they were before he trusted them with his and his sister's lives? And if the alliance was manufacturing psychic super-killers, they must have had some fairly serious security measures in place - to stop the kids from accidentally tearing up the place, and to stop anyone else from seeing in. So... what if Simon was allowed to believe he'd snatched River away, when in truth she was sent?
Alternatively, someone high up in the Alliance went rogue, and her escape was planned by them (Book?). Because either Simon's "men" were pretty damn special, or it must have been an inside job of some sort.
You are the first person (at least the first one that I've read) to come close to sharing a theory I've had since War Stories aired. Nice to know I'm not alone.
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Originally posted by DTuck:
"You can't stop the signal"
I was under the impression, from the very first viewing of the trailer, that it was refering to the 'red button' (from OOG) that the cast & crew gave Joss when Firefly was cancelled. They said something to the effect of "If you manage to get the project off the ground, hit that button, and we'll come a' runnin, no matter what."
Of course, it may have something to do with the plotline of the movie, I dunno :)
oops. sorry about the misquote. that is a fairly big blunder. excuse my egregious gaff! anyway, i like your explanation. that would be pretty funny.
only people who have seen the show would get it.
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