Maybe it's good it was cancelled . . .
POSTED BY: grrarrg
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 20:31
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You didn't like Lineage??
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Originally posted by Fredikayllow:
Buffy- I must be of the few people that actually like ssn 1.
I list BtVS S1 as my least favorite,
but that does not mean that I don't like it...
I think the very worse shows of either BtVS or Ats are head and shoulders above most of American television.
There isn't a single episode that I don't enjoy on some level.
There is always some humor, some character growth, and many things that I care about.
Very few TV shows offer half of what the dullest of Joss' shows offer!
Personally I don't think for a second that a 6th season of Angel would have been a let down.
If Joss had more stories to tell (as he said he did) then I know I would have loved to have seen them!
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Originally posted by Fredikayllow:
Ssn 5 felt a little odd, but it was pretty much good. Eps such as The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco and Lineage were not exactly my cup of tea whereas A Hole In The World and You're Welcome were fantastic.
You didn't like Lineage? I didn't mind it at all, but I think Why We Fight may be the worst Joss episode of tv ever. I mean the idea of the vampire changed after angel got his soul back is ok, but the sub and WWII stuff was just awful IMO.
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OK, I understand some of the objections to "Why We Fight," but I have another opinion.
First, submarine stories are a writing genre that I, (and presumably many others), love. The first grown-up book I ever read was about a submarine salvage operation in the 1930's. I have read "US Submarine Operations In World War II" several times.
Second, the episode filled in a great chunk of the Angel and Spike backstory. I concede that the Spike in this story is not quite evil enough to match up with BTVS Season 2. But I love the explanation for the leather coat.
Third, the episode delivered the basic submarine premise of a "closed environment" very well, with the final solution based on the Buffy/Angel mythology.
I thought the 'standing on the office chairs with a noose around the neck' was stupid.
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The premise was ridiculous though. Fair enough if they wanted to do a submarine story with Angel in it, but why concoct a reason to get Spike in there too? Not only does it mildly contradict some of Buffy S2, it ruins what could have been a very dark story indeed. Of course that wasn't solely Spike's fault - the other vampire characters were abysmal.
Personally I think I'd have preferred to see Angel in the trenches.
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i would have to say i did enjoy S4 of angel, up until the whole jasmine thing- everything with the beast was pretty cool- and i have to agree with a statement made earlier, Wesley was always my favorite character, especially when he got all gruff. When he died in the last episode, i almost cried. Man, the possibilities for S6 of Angel are just endless, but they would need basically a whole new Angel crew, cuz Gunn clearly wasnt gonna last the fight, wes was dead, cordy was dead and fred gone. I personally think angel, spike and Illyria would have survived the fight- i doubt spike would have been brought back from buffy only to be killed off at the end of a single season. I have only seen a couple episodes of S6 of Buffy, but i really liked S7, really engaging with a pretty conclusive ending. And i just have to say, Andrew was awesome, he always made me laugh. Anyway, maybe after Serenity and Wonder woman Joss will make a Buffy and/or Angel movie, like before or after Serenity sequal! 
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