I really wanna know; why is Charmed bad?

POSTED BY: Zoot
UPDATED: Friday, May 6, 2005 12:55
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ZOOT

Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:51 PM

My sympathies go out to you!!

Frankly I'm still reeling from having assumed that the Avatars were the Big Bad and they would end the season and (one can only hope) the show - now I discover they have been defeated midseason and we're back to the inane one episode plot lines which seem created solely to irritate ….

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GWENHARKER

Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:38 PM

Don't forget that many of the stories seemed scarily alike to the Buffy ones. For example, the season six buffy episode Normal Again was supposed to be season five, but something leaked and Charmed latched on and cranked it out first. And I'm sure you oculd see (I know I can) that Normal Again would've been more appropriate with what was going on in Season 5 with Glory and the brains.

Charmed, Season Six had potential if you got past the crappy writing. Alas, Holly got pregnant and Chris' storyline was sped up, when it would've been much more logical to have it done over the course of a season and a half - two seasons (Piper and Leo loved one another, but the way they were put together much too convenient).

IMHO, the best actress on that shwo is Holly Marie Combs. She doesn't dress slutty or anything and is and always has been the responsible one.

EMBERS

Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by Zoot:
If only I knew what Veronica Mars was - Woe unto thee, British TV!!!
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I hope you get it someday...
Veronica is smart and funny, with lots of underlying angst

it is like you took the adolescent girl's 'Nancy Drew' books,
set them at 'Twin Peaks',
and hired some writers who really knew how to crank out funny dialogue...
and added complications like a dead best friend
a boyfriend who dumped VM
and a Mother who deserted her
and some unknown school 'friend' who raped her...
(I love this show)

ZOOT

Friday, April 15, 2005 8:18 AM

its begining to sound like a slightly more up neat and screwed My So Called Life!!

We always get these things eventually - it just takes time - I will look out for it!

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QUICKSAND

Friday, April 15, 2005 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by Zoot:

(a) Witches;
(b) nice story arcs;
(c) amusing story lines;
(d) (one for the men) many a naked or semi-maked woman (Query: Is it always hot enough for those girls to wear what they wear (if you can call it clothes)?)
(e) attractive men (at least in the first series before they all got fat).

a) The presence or absence of witches has nothing to do with the quality of the show. It's rather like a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger or a food with chocolate. Just because the item is there, does not mean the result is automatically superior.

b) Maybe there's a nice story arc over one 60-minute episode, but Buffy/Angel/Firefly rock because there are ALSO arcs over entire SEASONS, and the lives of the characters. Just because "Charmed" had enough brain to acknowledge that characters actually aged over time (unlike, say, any other Aaron Spelling show ever), there wasn't really an arc. A few recurring characters, but not any real growth. It's "Melodrama" (Aaron Spelling again) vs. Actual Drama.

c) We're all entitled to our opinion. Nobody is right or wrong, I just disagree.

d) Just because a movie has cleavage, does not mean I will go see it. There are plenty of magazines, and "alternative" cinema I can watch if that's all I want. Also, I do date occasionally.

e) Mostly everyone on the show is gorgeous, but ditto for the Spanish Channel. No disrespect to the Latin culture, but I don't watch that channel either. Y yo comprende un poco de espanol, tambien. (apologies for not working the ~ right).

Hey, if you like "Charmed," go right ahead and enjoy it. But I hope I speak for everyone here when I say it's "Joss Lite." And I don't mean in the sense that Jane Espenson is Joss Lite, I mean Lite Lite. If that makes sense. Someone back me up here, or argue with me. It's cool.

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ZOOT

Friday, April 15, 2005 10:25 AM

Au contraire - ain't gonna argue!!

I bloody HATE Charmed - but was trying to point out that it could have been good if Mr Spelling hadn't been involved and Joss had.....

Glad to hear you "date occasionally" - I wonder what that would be like...

I don't think we have the equivalent of the Spanish Channel in the UK and it sounds like that's a darn shame (irony!)....

Melodrama is a good way to put it, but I think "Joss Lite " is doing Joss a disservice - not even in the same ball park (can an English woman use that expression without sounding odd?)...

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QUICKSAND

Friday, April 15, 2005 11:48 AM

I will now diss my own post:

1) The Spanish channel is a window into a culture that is not my own. As an American, I am naturally culturally ignorant, and therefore know nothing of why these shows are so popular. However, I am comfortable in the knowledge that I can turn it on any time of day, and instantly want to shag whatever female is on the screen. (I use the word specifically for the Brit who started this thread. Americans can look it up).

2) I left something out. Know why else I hate "Charmed?" All the bloody ESTROGEN.

3) What's the UK equivalent of "Lite?" Can I substitute the phrase "Diet Joss?"

(qs)

ZOOT

Friday, April 15, 2005 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Quicksand:
I will now diss my own post:

1) The Spanish channel is a window into a culture that is not my own. As an American, I am naturally culturally ignorant, and therefore know nothing of why these shows are so popular. However, I am comfortable in the knowledge that I can turn it on any time of day, and instantly want to shag whatever female is on the screen. (I use the word specifically for the Brit who started this thread. Americans can look it up).

2) I left something out. Know why else I hate "Charmed?" All the bloody ESTROGEN.

3) What's the UK equivalent of "Lite?" Can I substitute the phrase "Diet Joss?"

(qs)

A response from "the Brit who started this thread":

1) am liking the sound of the Spanish channel if it has a commensurate number of shaggable men (see “shag” can be an adjective as well) – I don’t get out much (shock, horror!)

2) Speaking as a woman, I wholeheartedly concur about the Oestrogen (that’s how we spell it in the UK) – can’t stand overly feminine women! (as I write this I am, however, wearing plunging lacy top to show off puppies (another UK term) so I can hardly talk) - The episode aired on Living TV last night, here in the UK, had such an eyeful of Phoebe’s aforementioned puppies – I had to look away!!

3) Diet Joss still doesn’t work – needs to be Pepsi versus Coke (or rather 7Up versus Tango)…..

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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QUICKSAND

Friday, April 15, 2005 10:59 PM

Watered-Down Joss

Joss Lite

Diet Joss

Low-Carb Joss

Joss = Original Trilogy / JossLite = Clone Menace

Joss 2: Cruise Control

SPOOKYJESUS

Friday, April 15, 2005 11:57 PM

It's an Aaron Spelling show and in the words of your hero and mine, Mr. Joss Whedon -

"I believe Aaron Spelling has single-handedly
lowered SAT scores."

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