Indiana Jones was at the TOP of his game in.....?

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UPDATED: Thursday, April 21, 2005 02:43
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GAVIDA

Friday, April 15, 2005 8:44 AM

I have to say, Raiders blew me right out of my socks when I watched it in the theatre.
I still remember the horror I felt when this huge, barebreasted, bald german guy beats Indy up and the plane suddenly turned around.

Ok, I was young back then and I guess it was some imagnination thing, when the prop blades came in on the guy and the scene cut to Indy.
It is sad that in today's movies they would have to show the "meatgrinding process" to make the audience gasp.

But since I was able to visualize what happened in my head it was some real "horror" to me back then.
And I like the fact that one of the most funny scenes from Raiders was done because of Ford being sick when shooting it.
(You know which one I mean, right? )

ToD was an ok one, but it didn't have the "feel" that Raiders had.
Some scenes were great though, even when slightly over the top, like the dinner. Maybe it was even because they were so over the top.

Last Crusade really lives from the chemistry between Connery and Ford.
You can actually feel how much fun the two had together when shooting the movie.
The story was far better than in ToD, maybe not as good as the one from Raiders.

I wouldn't be able to say if I like Raiders better or Crusade. So I would go for:
1st - Raiders & Crusade (for different reasons)
2nd - Temple of Doom

See ya,
Gavida

RABIT

Friday, April 15, 2005 1:05 PM

My preference for the movies:
1) Raiders
2) Crusade

I just love Raiders. It was beautifully executed, a wild ride, lots of fun. Crusade was a little silly plot-wise, but I'll agree that the chemistry was great and the characters were wonderful.

My opinion of Indy being "at the top of his game":
1) Crusade
2) Raiders

As was previously stated, Indy - when his dad wasn't around - was more confident and capable in Crusade than in Raiders.

No, I don't rate Temple. I kinda ignore it. One thing that has always bugged me about it is that Indy never actually does anything proactive. Every action he takes is just a simple reaction. There is virtually nothing he does in Temple that is his own decision. In Raiders and Crusade, the plot is driven by his choices, the things he decides to do (and not do). In Temple, he does nothing more than react to what's thrown at him in the most obvious and simple way. To me, it just made Indy a very weak character, and that was a shame...

Rabit

MANWITHPEZ

Friday, April 15, 2005 1:23 PM

I think Indy was at the top of his game the most in Temple of Doom. There is no rest nor pause for him in that movie once he gets started. Plus that scene with the reveal of him by the lamplight of the minecart...Iconic!

Also, Hey! Short Round!

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AURAPTOR

Friday, April 15, 2005 1:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
Raiders was a brilliant film with a great plot and wonderful characters A++

Doom was a roller coaster ride in a kiddie's park,
with no character development and very little plot C-

Crusade was better than Doom,
but still, VERY silly plot...very silly all together B

JMPO of course...

Ditto

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STILLSHINY

Friday, April 15, 2005 1:34 PM

Gotta say my Fav is Last Crusade.

Like the backstory on how Indy became who he is. I like "origin" stories. You all are right the chemistry with Connery is awesome in every way. Even like the "Christian" aspects of it. I like the whole "leap of faith" moment. I've used it in talking to my youth group. I could list great moments from that movie all day.

I loved it so much I bought the screen play & the soundtrack, just to relive the experience. One of my all time favorite movies.

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ZOOT

Friday, April 15, 2005 1:40 PM

Much as I truely DETEST agreeing with people, I'd have to go with Raiders....

A work of genius in the stand alone sense whch the others aren't quite...

But possibly my favourite scene in all three is when Short Round and Indy are playing cards in the jungle and every time she turns round, Willie is scared by a different animal - I still laugh when I see that and the other thing I tend to hate is slapstick!

Plus Harrison is at his most beautiful in Raiders (with the exception of the point of carbon freezing)...

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Friday, April 15, 2005 2:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gavida:
And I like the fact that one of the most funny scenes from Raiders was done because of Ford being sick when shooting it.

I didn't know he was sick, I thought he was just in a hurry to get off the location filming and back to London (or was it L.A.?) for some other thing (premiere? family thing? appointment?).

Spielberg had the whole fight scene choreographed, and Ford said that this was his last day. Spielberg said that that the only way they could finish that fast was if Indy just. . . pulled out his revolver and. . . shot . . .

Both of them: THAT'S BRILLIANT!!!

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GAVIDA

Friday, April 15, 2005 3:09 PM

During the time they shot in Tunisia many of the crew got sick from the food they were not used to and Ford was one of them.

So the scene was planned as a large action scene, but Ford felt so sick that he asked to shorten the shoot.

Depending on sources it was even him, who came up with the idea to just shoot the guy with the large sword.

Here three quotes with the anecdote:

For instance, in a very funny scene, Indy is faced with an impressive Arab swordsman in Cario - the man does all this fancy swordplay (oh no...Indy's met his match) and then, with an exasperated look, Indy simply shoots him. This scene actually was created by accident, when Harrison Ford, who was sick during the filming, asked if the scene could be shortened.

from: http://www.radiodirectory.com/usstoreproducts6300214060.html

The Planned Action Scene that wasn't: A favorite scene of many people takes place between Ford and a gigantic bad guy wielding a huge sword, when Marion Ravenwood was kidnapped by the bad guys in the middle of the Egyptian town's outside market. This huge bad guy moves in Indiana's way, showing him a big deadly sword, & puts on a display of swordsmanship, showing off. Indiana, tired from fighting, watches him, thinks about it for a brief moment, then quickly pulls out his gun and shoots the guy, solving the problem. (Ford, according to the storyboard, was supposed to have a big, involved fight with him, but was feeling pretty sick. So on the spur of the moment, the script was changed).

from: http://www.homevideos.com/revnclas/10b.htm

The scene in Cairo in which Indy just shoots a sword-wielding man was intended to be a long, choreographed fight scene featuring Indy's whip versus the Arab man's saber. But at the time Harrison Ford was suffering from dysentery after three months of filming in Tunisia, couldn't face the three additional days of filming and suggested that this much shorter version should be tried instead. Ford approached Spielberg and said: "Why don't I just shoot the son of a b*tch?" And thus the most famous, and funniest scene in Raiders was born!

from: http://www.theindyexperience.com/tie_lite/raiders_trivia.shtml

Ok, I am a geek when it comes to Indy

See ya,
Gavida

MRSKBORG

Friday, April 15, 2005 4:58 PM

oh its kinda hard to choose Raiders or Crusade, mmm Raiders, I think. Oh man I loved that film so much I wore out the video tape, drove my mother round the bend. I like Temple of Doom too,it has some very funny moments. The dinner scene was hilarious. Loved the third one - hey Sean & Harrison, absolutley great, and one of the first films I went to see multiple times on my own. Also, I reckon a good movie is timeless, and my family proved that, second generation of Indy fans, went round for months singing the theme and watched and rewatched. Good thing we had DVD's by that time.

If and when they ever get round to doing the fourth one, I'll be there.

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LISSA

Friday, April 15, 2005 5:43 PM

i totally forgot this in my earlier post...

i'm 18 so i wasn't around when the movies first came out, but i've been a fan for as long as i can remember. raiders was the midnight movie at amc a few weeks ago so i got to see it on the big screen! and it was so sweet cause it wasn't like the dvd, it was all gritty just like it would have been when it came out! it was soooooooo sweet...one of the cooler experiences of my life:)

~lissa, spwhore

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