No real discussion of Lord Of The Rings?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 20:03
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Originally posted by dietcoke:
Well I had never heard of Lord of the Rings until I saw the movies which are now my top three all time favorite movies.
I liked them so much I read The Hobbit and then The Lord of the Rings. I like the book even better!
The books have a grand and thick sense of history to them, the movies went more for the action, as mentioned above. Now I love action, but some of LOTR came off a little like Aliens. Great action, but that's not why I liked the books.
It got done, and it was done well. But I still like Bakshi's cartoon better.
And as far as best TRILLOGYS go (ooooh I'm gonna get it for this...), I think Back to the Future has it for continuity, solid characterization and satisfactory conclusion.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And as far as best TRILLOGYS go (ooooh I'm gonna get it for this...), I think Back to the Future has it for continuity, solid characterization and satisfactory conclusion.
Pullin' out my umbrella for the s@*tstorm Chrisisall
You are so gonna get it for that!! Although, having said that I do have a serious appreciation for the BTTF trillogy! (or maybe I just have a thing for cute small guys . . . *lost in Michael J Fox moment* . . .
But gotta ask - have you seen Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade?? - may not be so good on the ol' continuity chestnut - but I'd rate them the best on the basis of three very solid films - none of which is significantly weaker than the others (c.f. Return of the Jedi - Note to self - sounding a lot like Return of the King now I think about it) . . . But then am 'weak and feeble woman' and this preference may just be down to liking strong manly rugged types more than small men . . .
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Zoot, I own 'em, I love 'em, but even though the Indy trillogy is great (yes, I loved Temple of Doom too), it's the profound sense of friendship between Marty and Doc Brown that puts BTTF on a slightly higher level for me.
As Bruce Lee would say "We need emotional content". It's definitly there in Last Crusade, but it's not a characteristic of all three installments.
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Originally posted by montanagirl:
BUT, they completely screwed up my Faramir!!! I have an entire rant about it somewhere in this thread.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=8358
I haven't quite forgiven Jackson for that.
i completely agree. in the movies, he comes off as such a power hungry character but in the books, he is quite kind and understanding of what his place is in the world.
i recently (on monday) finished the trilogy (books) and here are some of my big complaints (forgive some lapses in recounting the books! i only read them once!):
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1. there is not enough explanation of the tight relationship that gandalf and aragorn have before the whole ring quest begins. in the book, it is explained that gandalf and aragorn have been working together for a long time. in the movie, it would have helped to understand why aragorn happened to be at the inn of the prancing pony.
2. there is absolutely no sense for how long gandalf is gone from the shire after he discovers the ring and bilbo leaves. in the book it is an enormous amount of time (something like 12 years) but in the movie, it feels like only a week. this is a minor complaint, but still!
3. what is up with the addition of the elves at helm's deep? was my book missing a few pages? the elves are perfectly happy to help rohan but when gondor could really use more soldiers, the elves are content to leave them to their own devices?
4. it makes sense but the subplot with arwen and aragorn in the movies kind of bugs me. there is very little about it in the books that i can recall. this is just my opinion, though.
the cutting out of certain characters does not bother me so much (like farmer tom or the guy (i forget his name) who is leading the rohirrim (not eomer)). adding the stuff with tom in the first movie would have made it much longer.
my overall opinion was that the movies were great to watch visually. the effects were great and the battle scenes were stunning in scope. the books were fun to read, but i sure did get lost sometimes because the author had so many places made up that everytime a character would mention a new place, i would have no idea what he/she was talking about! still, if you have not read the books but seen the movies, the books are worth a read.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Zoot, I own 'em, I love 'em, but even though the Indy trillogy is great (yes, I loved Temple of Doom too), it's the profound sense of friendship between Marty and Doc Brown that puts BTTF on a slightly higher level for me.
As Bruce Lee would say "We need emotional content". It's definitly there in Last Crusade, but it's not a characteristic of all three installments.
That Delorean lovin' Chrisisall
I get ya (and I own the BTTF box set my own self) but part of me can't help thinking that, were I Marty, I'd have to be wondering just how bright the Doc really is - its seems to take him an awfully long time to get with the programme sometimes... I mean, certainly the man can turn a pretty slinky car into an impressive piece of time travelling equipment, but how long does it take him to believe Marty is from the future? A pretty damn long time, is how long.... (as I recall, I haven't watched them since last year)...
Plus, emotional content aside, Raiders has Nazis!! Nazis, I mean come on - as the big bad they beat Biff and Lybian terrorists hands down, surely?
Nazis. I hate these guys.
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Oh yeah, Zoot, the Indy series DEFINITLY wins on all other levels ('cept continuity), his adventures are so BIG!
It's Just BTTF gets me to bein' all tear stricken and such by the last reel of the third film. Like I'm sayin' by to good friends.
And everyone loves to hate a Nazi!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh yeah, Zoot, the Indy series DEFINITLY wins on all other levels ('cept continuity), his adventures are so BIG!
It's Just BTTF gets me to bein' all tear stricken and such by the last reel of the third film. Like I'm sayin' by to good friends.
And everyone loves to hate a Nazi!
Needin' to get my Adolph signature Chrisisall
AW bless!! Am gettin' a bit teared up myself now!!
"Are you trying to develop a sense of humor or am I going deaf?" Ah Temple o' Doom!!! Sigh!!
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>>or the guy (i forget his name) who is leading the rohirrim (not eomer)<<
That would have been Erkenbrand, I do believe.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
>>or the guy (i forget his name) who is leading the rohirrim (not eomer)<<
That would have been Erkenbrand, I do believe.
-F
ah. thanks for the clarification!
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Originally posted by Zoot:
"Are you trying to develop a sense of humor or am I going deaf?" Ah Temple o' Doom!!! Sigh!!
i loved those movies too. just a side note, the actor who played mola ram passed away recently. :(
that is a great line you quoted. too funny.
"that belongs in a museum."
"so do you."
"well jones, at least you haven't forgotten how to show a lady a good time."
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